thanks ken. i would post some pics but i dont know how....i have some pics on a disposable camera (before and after). ill be taking them to get them put on a disc by next weekend. i sell new chevys and im here 12 hours a day 7 days a week so i dont have much time... but anyways this is my work computer, i have a great connection and access to whatever i want to look at.. besides **** of course lol but anyways ill have to figure out a way to get on someones computer to upload the pics.........