More replies, thanks again. I have tried with the just the Engine fan, and it is shrouded. Replaced it with a new one 2 years ago, that was torn up. I've also tried with the e-fans, but they only help when the engine @ idle in traffic, or hauling and towing at slow to idle speed. The condenser is clean as the rad is too. I keep them clean in the effect of trying to figure out the problem. Also there is a digital gauge for the water temp and when at 70 mph and A/C and ambient air temp, the elec. shows about 225-230 temp and the "L" on the OEM temp gauge.

if the weather holds out, I will look into other possible problems tomorrow.

Thanks again.