idk, Terry, best not to upset the chapter leader for life! <a href="http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr216/The_SnowMan710/Smiley%20guys/?action=view¤t=sSW_emperor.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr216/The_SnowMan710/Smiley%20guys/sSW_emperor.gif" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>