I just had them weld in a section of pipe in place of the muffler and had them make a turn down right behind the rear axle. I choose this setup because it seems like every pickup around where I live has pipes dangling because of a cheap install and there is nothing more unsightly the big chrome tips that are half rusted plus when I am hooking up a trailer I hate exhaust in my face so I did not want it straight out the back. It is not loud at all to me compared to most pickups I have heard. It does sound nice and a much cheaper alternative to a cat back system.