"I couldnt agree more! Thats why I cant believe that companies like Ford and Jeep sell what would otherwise be quite capable 4x4's with the tires they usually do."

Why would they want a vehicle to perform badly for the majority of customers? You know that most 4x4 vehicles are lucky if they experience more than accidentally backing off the driveway onto the front lawn. So why are you so surprised. The Pirellis are probably the best tire for an Expy for every thing it will ever do for Fords customers, except for the people why have written messages in this thread, not counting me.