Your right. What i was saying, Cat has the name following that is almost religious. Guys would buy it for name recognition only. I drive a KW T600 with a C-13 Cat in it. I hate it. I would rather be able to have a Cummins, but, the cat c-13 is lighter than cummins with the same HP ratings. We are bulk haulers so the lighter the truck = more payload. I deliver into strip mines where Cat is the main name in equipment and the guys who operate them would buy up the cat motor powered pickups like little girls buying up hanna montana junk!