Good points James. And yes, I'm sure we'd all take that V8 over a 4 banger any day but we don't all have that option. And yes, you're right about teens building up the Honda motors and its easy for them to do. And yes the parts are available out there, but how many of these places are true Honda building specialists? Just curious. I know that Ford after market places for 4 bangers may not jump right out at ya but those that do exist seem to trully specialize in the engine and nothing more. Where if you look at the Ford 2.3L you can go to someone like Esslinger Engineering and talk with guys who specialize in this engine. They've been around for however long and done nothing but specialize on one engine trying to figure out every tiny trick to making it perform better. Can stroke it to 2.85L or 3.0L depending on which block. There is so much we can do to both engines, but to truly compare the two, I'd say we'd really need to put them in the same vehicle, build them up as much as ya want, and race em. As for 4 cylinders not making 100hp stock, well last time I looked at some charts I thought the 2.3 was just over 100hp but I could be wrong. But how much of it actually being transfered to the wheels, who knows. Hehe. Anyways, glad to hear your words of wisdom on the 4 bangers and one day we may actually know for sure. Until then James, have a great day and thanks again.

James