Rusty, I agree 100%. Ford should dump Navistar. Numberdummy, right on. Monsterbaby, the Navistar version is a pathetic, underpowered wimp that would not sell in the competitive market against Dodge and GM. I think you guys are right on target here. Ford should use some of that loan money to develop their own deisel and get rid of Navistar. There is no excuse for the headbolt design of the 6.0 in this day and age. How about back to basics for Ford? Make their own deisel and make it right. Overbuild the darned thing. Make it bullitproof. Make a reputation for Ford of having the best deisel out there, even if it costs money in the short term, it will ensure the survival of the F series down the road. Also, fire the idiots that did the front grill and headlights and all those ridiculous badges on the 2008. Look at the developement of the superduty from 1999-2007. Then 2008 WTF??????????? How can Ford be using turbos that develop "lot rot"? There is this wonderful material called Stainless Steel, it's been out for decades. Yes, it costs more, but how much is warranty labor and the reputation of a 100 year old company? Ceramics, titanium, stainless steel, grease fittings, teflon, use what it takes to make a reliable product superior to the competition and people will come back again and again.