thanks 70blue and yes a lot of time and blood and more blood and then oh yeah more blood those motor mount bolts are a b@#ch sometimes the actuall history of the ride is even more intresting though i actually helped my best friend build it about 5 years ago after i had traded him a fox body stang for it and then his situation changed and he decided he didnt need a project any more and told me i had first dibs on it and so here we are now ...so now im doing the finishing up on it but im always finding something else to do to it