now thats more like it!!!!!! lets try not to get too crazy with this,and maybe we can pull it off,first a place,then a date..there is a campground in foxboro mass that is open all year round,and its REALLY nice.check it out on the web www.normandy farms.com been there many times,and love the place.do we have many campers out there? just a thought.over 400 sites,i think they could fit us in. if not,a day thing.trying to find neutral ground for everyone.i'm open for suggestions