Yeah I was ignoring you for a while, You guys say he is the King of Score? You havent seen his place. Kings are pawns to that statement. He is the Emperor of the milkyway score. You still have not answered my question about gel temps. did you read my posting? Oh thats right, your prof Fabman to other sites . I have been spreading the word and now I have a farmer down here in AZ that im trying to convince. Im just a phone call away from the contract for Vegas pickup and disposal of wvo and 7 independent contracts here. Just stuck on the money thing. Cant grow any of it