Ok I used a can and 1/2 of PB Blaster on the front rotors. Still beating them <and me> sensless with a BFH got me no where. No.. thats not true, I cracked the DS rotor.
Going to buckle it up for the night and drive it home <as long as I dont see sparks!>
If someone reads this who has done the 7 lug front <4x4> just let me know if its a typical hubless rotor.
Just unreal.... ya know??
Tommy D