Out in Suffolk there is a "fire Road" off route 111 in Manorville on the east side of the road just about opposite Hot Water Street, it goeas a couple of miles easily and comes out at the intersection of rt 24 and the LIE in Riverhead. Actually looking at the maps.google.com site it is marked as Hot Water Street and you turn left on toppings path and continue till you hit a paved road which is 24. Pretty tame but a nice little ride.