Yeah, I might have to do that. I called the shop today and they said if I buy a muffler they will do the rest for pretty cheap. I was thinking about a delta flow 50 series? Does anyone know how they sound on a ranger? I see them on e-bay for about $65 He just wants some sound not so loud you can't hear anything. Just a halfway nice deep tone if you can get that from a 3.0. Thanks for the info. Medster