no sourdough here... Came up here april 04 on accounta the army told the wife this was our new home. We're scheduled to leave in 07, but might stay til 10, it's a wait and see game. No offense but we'll never be sourdoughs, we're enjoying our time here, but we're both warm weather people and have a house in texas to get back to. So gonna do lotsa fishin and 4x4in for a few year in the cold.