Just got me a nice 4x4 muley. He has the biggest body i have ever seen. He is a really old buck too. He has nice big brow tines also. A friend got a great 4x4 muley that had a very big points. He got him at 7:32 am on opening day. Talk about a quick hunt. He didnt even get to his spot before he shot his deer. I got mine on the 2nd day