hehe... oh you guy's kill me. Well, let's say either this saturday (nov 20) or Dec. 4? Course I'm still up for the 27, the saturday after Thanksgiving. Say around 6/6:30? Tulsa???

STan

"Alice, Alice, Alice, Ron, Ron, Ron, Jim, Jim, Jim, Mark, Mark.... well gutter king... " and the rest of you, let's hear it.