the Sanford Pit is off New Dam Rd up RT 4 across RT 109 to New dam Rd take a right and the pits are about 1/2 mile on your right.

Abbott Mt. go through Sanford on 109 right on RT 11 right on Owls nest Rd to end then right on what looks like a dirt driveway just follow it back then take a right in the split then right up the rocks to the top of the mountain.

Hope that helps