post it or link it. I'm just part of the group, don't need my approval to proceed, make it up and lets see how it looks. I'm open to all ideas, I'm a little weak on the computer skills that way myself. If you want to play with the corn ideas, that's cool too, just thought it was something that we would want to avoid, being the stereotypical Iowa thing but maybe it's not such a bad thing... Guess I spent enough hours with the stuff just to get lost in it... Got some good ideas coming out already, but try to keep it semi simple. Too much detail makes for more expense to produce. The idea is that once we have this, we can get some shirts and such done. I do have to approve the final stuff to present to Ken, but until then, let your talents go and do your best. I'm a great critic, but getting the idea to go with isn't always my strong point. In basic, I can help tweak it, but am better at improving on an existing idea.