Thats exactly the way I feel about Joe Rizza and Al Piemonte.. I ended up at Forest Ford on Harlem Avenue(about 1800 North) and they treated me with respect and answered all my questions... Of course, what always happens when something works well??? Somebody else comes in and screws it all up... They closed and were absorbed by Jacobs Twin Auto Mall on Grand Avenue.. Haven't been there yet, but I get about 2 emails a week from them telling me to "come on down"... So, to answer the original post, I don't know, but i'm not afraid to say so anyway...