I agree. Right now I'm running around 11° timing on my truck, but I know a lot of people are running around 14° with stock motors. I'm pretty sure if I bring the timing up and expect to pull a camper, I'll need to start running 89, but I'm hoping the higher timing will help compensate for the lower gas mileage I'm seeing right now while running 89.

I'm not against ethanol blends, it's just proven through my own driving habits to be more cost effective to run 87 with no ethanol. I do know on tanks where I've driven a little more "spirited," the difference in gas mileage pretty much disappears (yes, a 21 yr old guy here who drives like he's 85....)