Ya I hear ya guys! I had some great times with these rims myself, as you can see from my photo albums I'd rather ride a little safer rim myself. Some folks still use them for show but I woundnt ride them on the highways. I hate to just trash them, the tires are like new but tube tires. (16.5, 8 lugs rims). So who knows maybe one of them die hards out here may want to fight with some old school stuff.

Frank