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bill11012 06-27-2009 01:28 PM

Gas vs PSD
 
Whats better? I am a proud Triton V10 man and will never get a PSD as long as ford makes the V10. What are the PSD's high points?

mongo75 06-27-2009 01:48 PM

UH OH- lemme get the pop corn and a chair LOL...

Actually, there are several points that account for the extra cost on the sticker- more power (tq), better fuel economy, longevity (some over 1 million miles), higher resale value, sound cooler LOL, a lot easier and way cheaper to get more hp/tq out of a diesel than gas, you can roll coal into the yuppies car next to you at the light. I'm sure there's more others will add...

Tom 06-27-2009 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by bill11012 (Post 7653063)
Whats better? I am a proud Triton V10 man and will never get a PSD as long as ford makes the V10. What are the PSD's high points?

Not to sound abrasive, but it seems as if you've already made up your mind and aren't interested in the PSD's high points...you just want a fight!:-X19

Now if you were truly interested, you would have stated your question, WITHOUT the "will never get a PSD...".:-X01

D8chumley 06-27-2009 02:03 PM

:-lamesign

Ford79 06-27-2009 02:20 PM

Hey Danny, I brought the popcorn, you get the chairs. LOL

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mongo75 06-27-2009 02:24 PM

Sounds like a plan Mike!

bill11012 06-27-2009 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by mongo75 (Post 7653113)
UH OH- lemme get the pop corn and a chair LOL...

Actually, there are several points that account for the extra cost on the sticker- more power (tq), better fuel economy, longevity (some over 1 million miles), higher resale value, sound cooler LOL, a lot easier and way cheaper to get more hp/tq out of a diesel than gas, you can roll coal into the yuppies car next to you at the light. I'm sure there's more others will add...

I do not want to argue with you PSD guys, I just want to know More about how the PS compares to the v10.
I agree with some of what you said, but a straight pipe v10 sounds pretty good.
The resale is higher on the PS, but it has more depreciation than the v10.
The resale is only higher because the purchase price is higher.
I have heard of 500K v10's they do last a long time.
What kind of MPG is this new 6.4PS getting?
from what I have heard it is about the same.
Yes, you get more tq, yes mods can be done for even more tq
but a v10 can put out 750HP with a supercharger.
BTW, rolling coal is the one thing we can not do with the V10.:(

Bear 1 06-27-2009 03:40 PM

Real Trucks don't have spark plugs!!

bill11012 06-27-2009 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Bear 1 (Post 7653396)
Real Trucks don't have spark plugs!!

Saying things like that just makes me think you have nothing to add to this conversation.
How would you like it if I said " real trucks don't have glow plugs"?

Angrywasp 06-27-2009 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by bill11012 (Post 7653390)
I do not want to argue with you PSD guys, I just want to know More about how the PS compares to the v10.
I agree with some of what you said, but a straight pipe v10 sounds pretty good.
The resale is higher on the PS, but it has more depreciation than the v10.
The resale is only higher because the purchase price is higher.
I have heard of 500K v10's they do last a long time.
What kind of MPG is this new 6.4PS getting?
from what I have heard it is about the same.
Yes, you get more tq, yes mods can be done for even more tq
but a v10 can put out 750HP with a supercharger.
BTW, rolling coal is the one thing we can not do with the V10.:(

That's true but unless you put much more money into the motor that just slapping the supercharger on it the motor will fail. The V10 makes 362 hp stock so you are talking about more than doubling the power which will require ~20#'s of boost at least. The torque that the 750 hp V10 makes will also be much higher in the rpm range and will not be as useful as the PS's. It's just easier to make more torque (which is what accelerates the vehicle not horsepower) in a reliable fashion with the diesel than the gassers. A good tuner will give you 200+ ftlbs of torque for say $500. The mileage difference isn't nearly as large as it used to but it is still there.

Dustball8504 06-27-2009 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by bill11012 (Post 7653390)
BTW, rolling coal is the one thing we can not do with the V10.:(


If it burns oil you could have the same effect, or just put some oil in the pipes, lol.

Ace! 06-27-2009 06:21 PM

Without giving any reasons whatsoever, the V10 is better. The PSD is a crap engine and should be scrapped by Ford. Ford should only offer their current 3V V10 in all vehicles, from Focus to F-Series to beyond. I think they should power the current space shuttle with the V10, but no matter how many letters I've sent to my congress persons and NASA they haven't accepted the idea yet.

7.3 Rocket 06-27-2009 06:25 PM

1: You NEVER have to change the spark plugs in a PSD.
2: PSDs don't eject parts like some V10s did previously. :-innocent

And PSDs will get a load rolling faster than a gas engine will due to the larger torque numbers.

Tom 06-27-2009 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ace! (Post 7653766)
Without giving any reasons whatsoever, the V10 is better. The PSD is a crap engine and should be scrapped by Ford. Ford should only offer their current 3V V10 in all vehicles, from Focus to F-Series to beyond. I think they should power the current space shuttle with the V10, but no matter how many letters I've sent to my congress persons and NASA they haven't accepted the idea yet.

Very nice, Ace! My thoughts indeed...:-partybud

79 F.-.R.D. 06-27-2009 06:40 PM

sorry i dont mean to sound like an arse but my 7.3 psd will do anything that the v10 can do and imho do it better. i do everything with that truck from race to tow and would never consider a v10's fun factor to a 7.3's, i dont like the newer diesels as much but you can still get the power, miles, and mileage out of them and aint that what matters?
so if you can get that out of a v10 good on you im just in love with my diesel, particulary the rollin coal into the car with the window down next to me;)


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