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MikeyLikesIt 04-29-2009 08:12 PM

Ok were bolting it together motors in the truck!!!!!!!
 
here we go pay attention guys, im putting it back together.:-headbang

wmjoe1953 04-29-2009 11:28 PM

Good to here it. How'd it go together? Lots of lube? How'd you set the lash? Fingers are crossed here for a good break in run. Remember, the Fords have a lash setting of 0.000", so don't add any half or three quarter turns to it. I'd go with setting lash with a feeler gauge at around 0.001"-0.002" at first, to allow for heat expansion during break in, and then after it's all good and pumped up and broke in, readjust the rocker arms, and set them to 0.000".

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 12:09 AM

ya, i check my oem shop manuel. OLD SCHOOL> 1/4 turn=.020 so thats what its at.
then the lube Lunati sent me was much nicer it was more of a paste. and they gave me plenty to do the job. then i filled the oil pan and added the breakin lube they sent me.
primed the oil pump and wooohoo all the lifters spin just by turning the motor over by hand.


break in procedure seems kind of agressive by lunati as well.
2000-2500 20 min.
then increase 500 rpm every 1 min until reaches 3500 rpm for one min.
idle back down in 500 rpm increments until reach 1000 rpms and shut down


im thinking i might just go old school and run 1800 for 15 min. what do ya think

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 12:28 AM

boy, im tired rite now man. ive been working on this since 12 noon - 10pm. what a day.

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 12:40 AM

I Plan to run break in thurs. morn 9am ish. call me joe if u got anything to input on this. ill have my cell on me. or text me and ill call you

wmjoe1953 04-30-2009 12:57 AM

Follow their instructions to the "T". That way, if something goes wrong, you can say you did it their way, and they have to work with you. I know that the Lunati products are a real good line, so you should be good to go. Keep us posted on how it goes.

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 01:00 AM

ok, will do. hey do you hav a morn. break time or can a call ya just befor i do start up?

wmjoe1953 04-30-2009 01:00 AM

I feel ya on the tired thing. We had to bust a$$ at work today, and assemble a race motor in 2 hours from a bare block. We got almost all of it done, should be ready to go within about a half hour of getting there in the morning, and in the car it goes. Has to be ran and tuned before noon, and on the truck ready to ship over to Salem by mid afternoon. That includes installing the rev limiter in the car.

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 01:01 AM

hey is it ok if i call ya just before i do the start up? or would it have to be on a break or something?

wmjoe1953 04-30-2009 01:03 AM

No break til lunch. I take lunch at noon. Just do what the cam card says, and keep an eye on your gauges. Watch all the gauges like a hawk, and you see anything, shut it down. Make sure you have some one with you to watch for leaks. This part of it is a two person job. One to handle the throttle, checking vitals, and another under the hood keeping an eye on things. Since the block was ona stand, keep the cap off the radiator for a little while, and have your spotter keep an eye on the coolant level, and flow.

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 01:04 AM

ooops doubled it there., sounds like ur gonna be wiped tommorrow too.

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 01:07 AM

ok, sounds good..... gimme call if ya like at lunch and ill update ya, or ill just post up later in the day. hey thanks for the research joe. ill giver a shot and cros my fingers.

wmjoe1953 04-30-2009 01:14 AM

Make sure the oil level is full before you fire it. Isn't it six quarts plus filter on the 460's. Check everything twice after installing it, before you fire it. Check all you hose connections again. Check your oil again. Check your firing order again. Set you start up timing to about 16*, that way it will have good curve, and guaranteed it won't be too retarded or advanced. Make sure the card is a hair fat at first. These are the things we do when firing a race motor for the first time. We never actually follow the cam card instructions for break in, but given the troubles, don't stray. We always have two, and some times three people at the time of start up. One under the hood checking for sounds, and tuning, one in the car keeping an eye on vitals, ahandling the starter, and one spotting for leaks and issues. We assemble the motor, set the crank to 16* BTDC compression stroke, drop the ditributor, install the motor. Get it buttoned up. Go over everything twice. Turn on the fuel pump to fill the carb. Pump it two or three times, and hit the starter. Take it up to around 1500 for a few seconds, then proceed to hand the throttle over to the boss. He then tunes it and wacks the throttle. We do this song and dance for about two minutes, until the engine is fully warmed up, keeping an eye on the gauges the whole time. The one in the car monitoring is never allowed to look at anyone or anything but the boss and the gauges. He is tuned into what the boss is signing to him. Tomorrows car is gonna be a 12.5 second sportman car for the 1/4 mile. One of our guys also has a turboed 396 in a vega (nasty little monster). You'll be fine tomorrow, just keep alert, and don't forget to check and recheck everything.

wmjoe1953 04-30-2009 01:15 AM

Must be tired....Make sure the carb, not card is a hair fat at first.

MikeyLikesIt 04-30-2009 01:27 AM

ya its a 9qt race pan, thats all ready. my carb is a 750 cfm edle and its been modified to be slightly lean at bottom and fat on top. sorry i didnt catch ya typin.... im kind a winding down. it takes me a couple hrs. till i can sleep.


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