rebuild kit from summit for a 460
hi guys i going to be rebuilding a 460 soon and i was looking at the kits from summit. i am going to put edelbrock rpm heads,intake,and cam kit on it with a 750 carb. i was also going to use the fel-pro sealed power rebuilt kit from summit. it says with 92cc heads it will have a compression ratio of 9.14:1. now should i get the 95cc heads or go with the 75cc heads and up the compression ratio or would that make it to high.( i think i read somewere that going from the 95cc to 75cc heads would raise it one point so it be 10.14:1 but i could be very wrong). the truck is not a daily driver and i would use it to mud bog, trail rides, trips to town, and stuff like that any info is much appreciated
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Originally Posted by emd160
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hi guys i going to be rebuilding a 460 soon and i was looking at the kits from summit. i am going to put edelbrock rpm heads,intake,and cam kit on it with a 750 carb. i was also going to use the fel-pro sealed power rebuilt kit from summit. it says with 92cc heads it will have a compression ratio of 9.14:1. now should i get the 95cc heads or go with the 75cc heads and up the compression ratio or would that make it to high.( i think i read somewere that going from the 95cc to 75cc heads would raise it one point so it be 10.14:1 but i could be very wrong). the truck is not a daily driver and i would use it to mud bog, trail rides, trips to town, and stuff like that any info is much appreciated
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I would get the 75 cc heads too. When you put the motor together check the compression with a standard .040 head gasket. If it is too high cometic makes a bunch of different thickness head gaskets to suit your needs.
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yea torque is what i am looking for i cant wait. i had a built 351 windsor in my f150 and i though it ran. blackf-100do you think go with the performer heads or the performer rpm heads. this is going to be mainly a truck to take to camp for back roads and trails with mud and hills. i seen a dyno write up that said the rpm made like 50 more ft pds of tq and 70 hp. i would think you would have the truck at or above 1500 rpm when on the gas so i was thinking getting the rpm heads over the performer heads whats your guys opinion
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Originally Posted by emd160
(Post 7278968)
yea torque is what i am looking for i cant wait. i had a built 351 windsor in my f150 and i though it ran. blackf-100do you think go with the performer heads or the performer rpm heads. this is going to be mainly a truck to take to camp for back roads and trails with mud and hills. i seen a dyno write up that said the rpm made like 50 more ft pds of tq and 70 hp. i would think you would have the truck at or above 1500 rpm when on the gas so i was thinking getting the rpm heads over the performer heads whats your guys opinion
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Best one I have seen is, Horsepower =is how fast you hit the wall
Torque= is how much of the wall you take with you |
other things to consider.... The cam your running will be the primary factor in choosing the heads and compression ratio. For me torque is best down low... but mud bogging wants big rpm where trail and technical 4x4 wants it low. To get one you lose some of the other...Of course with a 460 it matters less than with a 351w.
The way to properly build an engine is to determine octane desired, its use/rpm range desired (always a compromise unless race specific), this leads to a specific cam which leads to specific compression ratio which, as stated above can be up to a point higher with aluminum heads and about that much more if you have well designed quench in the chamber that usually comes with smaller 'closed' chambers and pistons designed for them. If the compression is too high you could have detonation problems if you decide to pull in the sun etc. the rpm intake may hurt the torque down low but give better results at max rpm thus you get the bump in #'s but the torque curve is whats important and that it match your needs regardless of the max at near redline. this is the fun part though. good luck |
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Originally Posted by emd160
(Post 7278968)
yea torque is what i am looking for i cant wait. i had a built 351 windsor in my f150 and i though it ran. blackf-100do you think go with the performer heads or the performer rpm heads. this is going to be mainly a truck to take to camp for back roads and trails with mud and hills. i seen a dyno write up that said the rpm made like 50 more ft pds of tq and 70 hp. i would think you would have the truck at or above 1500 rpm when on the gas so i was thinking getting the rpm heads over the performer heads whats your guys opinion
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