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chaparro 02-08-2007 12:52 AM
2007 head to head Exp El vs Sub.
 
Head to Head: 2007 Chevrolet Suburban LT3 4x4 vs. 2007 Ford Expedition Limited EL 4WD


<TABLE class=insettxt borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=430 border=1><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt></TD><TD>2007 Chevrolet Suburban LT3 4x4</TD><TD>Ford Expedition Limited EL 4WD</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=deck align=middle colSpan=3>Powertrain/Chassis</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Drivetrain layout </TD><TD>Front engine, 4WD</TD><TD>Front engine, 4WD</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Engine type </TD><TD>90* V-8, alum block and heads </TD><TD>90* V-8, iron block, aluminum heads</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Valvetrain </TD><TD>OHV, 2 valves/cyl </TD><TD>SOHC, 3 valves/cyl</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Displacement </TD><TD>325.1 cu in/5327cc </TD><TD>330.3 cu in/5414cc</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Compression ratio </TD><TD>9.9:1</TD><TD>9.8:1</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Power (SAE net) </TD><TD>310 hp @ 5200 rpm* </TD><TD>300 hp @ 5000 rpm</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Torque (SAE net) </TD><TD>335 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm* </TD><TD>365 lb-ft @ 3750 rpm</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Weight to power </TD><TD>19.0 lb/hp</TD><TD>20.9 lb/hp</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Transmission</TD><TD>4-speed automatic </TD><TD>6-speed, automatic</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Axle/final/low ratio</TD><TD>3.73:1/2.61:1/2.72:1</TD><TD>3.73:1/2.57:1/2.64:1</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Suspension, front; rear</TD><TD>Control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar; solid axle, coil springs, anti-roll bar</TD><TD>Control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Steering ratio </TD><TD>17.8:1</TD><TD>20.0:1</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Turns lock-to-lock</TD><TD>3.0 </TD><TD>3.2</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Brakes, f;r </TD><TD>13.0-in vented disc; 13.5-in vented disc, ABS </TD><TD>13.5-in vented disc; 13.2-in vented disc, ABS</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Wheels, f;r</TD><TD>17 x 7.5 in, cast aluminum </TD><TD>20 x 8.5 in, cast aluminum</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Tires, f;r </TD><TD>265/70R17 113S M+S Goodyear Wrangler HP</TD><TD>275/55R20 111H M+SPirelli Scorpion STR</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=deck align=middle colSpan=3>Dimensions </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Wheelbase 1</TD><TD>30.0 in</TD><TD>131.0 in</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Track, f/r </TD><TD>68.2/67.0 in</TD><TD>67.0/67.2 in</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Length x width x height </TD><TD>222.4 x 79.1 x 76.8 in</TD><TD>221.3 x 78.8 x 78.3 in</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Ground clearance </TD><TD>9.2 in </TD><TD>8.7 in</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Apprch/depart angle</TD><TD>16.7/20.9 deg</TD><TD>24.1/20.9 deg</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Turning circle </TD><TD>43.0 ft</TD><TD>43.9 ft </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Curb weight </TD><TD>5877 lb</TD><TD>6270 lb</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Weight dist, f/r</TD><TD>51/49%</TD><TD>51/49%</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Towing capacity </TD><TD>8000 lb </TD><TD>8750 lb</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Seating capacity</TD><TD>8 </TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Headroom, f/m/r </TD><TD>41.1/38.5/38.1 in </TD><TD>39.5/39.7/38.0 in</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Legroom, f/m/r </TD><TD>41.3/39.5/34.9 in </TD><TD>41.1/39.1/37.7 in</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Shoulder room, f/m/r </TD><TD>65.3/65.2/64.7 in</TD><TD>63.2/63.7/67.1 in</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Cargo vol behind f/m/r</TD><TD>137.4/90.0/45.8 cu ft</TD><TD>130.8/85.5/42.6 cu ft</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=deck align=middle colSpan=3>Test Data</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Acceleration to mph 0-30 </TD><TD>3.0 sec</TD><TD>2.5 sec</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>0-40</TD><TD>4.4</TD><TD>4.1</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>0-50</TD><TD>6.3 </TD><TD>5.8</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>0-60</TD><TD>8.9 </TD><TD>8.4</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>0-70 </TD><TD>11.5</TD><TD>11.1</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>0-80 </TD><TD>14.4</TD><TD>14.4</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>0-90 </TD><TD>19.4</TD><TD>18.9</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Passing, 45-65 mph </TD><TD>5.0 sec </TD><TD>4.7 sec</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Quarter mile</TD><TD>16.6 sec @ 84.4 mph </TD><TD>16.2 sec @ 84.2 mph</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Braking, 60-0 mph</TD><TD>138 ft </TD><TD>140 ft</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>600-ft slalom </TD><TD>55.9 mph avg </TD><TD>54.7 mph avg</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Lateral acceleration </TD><TD>0.69 g avg </TD><TD>0.69 g avg</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>MT figure eight </TD><TD>30.2 sec @ 0.50 g avg</TD><TD>30.6 sec @ 0.50 g avg</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Top-gear revs @ 60 mph </TD><TD>1800 rpm </TD><TD>1600 rpm</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=deck align=middle colSpan=3>Consumer Info</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Base price </TD><TD>$40,760 </TD><TD>$43,395 </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Price as tested </TD><TD>$51,320 </TD><TD>$49,685 </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Stability/traction control </TD><TD>Yes/yes</TD><TD>Yes/yes</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Airbags </TD><TD>Dual front, f/r curtain</TD><TD>Dual front, front side, f/r curtain</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Basic warranty </TD><TD>3 yrs/36,000 miles </TD><TD>3 yrs/36,000 miles</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Powertrain warranty </TD><TD>3 yrs/36,000 miles </TD><TD>5 yrs/60,000 miles</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Roadside assistance </TD><TD>3 yrs/36,000 miles </TD><TD>5 yrs/60,000 miles</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Fuel capacity </TD><TD>31.5 gal </TD><TD>33.5 gal</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>EPA city/hwy econ </TD><TD>15/20 mpg </TD><TD>14/18 mpg (est)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>MT fuel economy </TD><TD>15.0 mpg </TD><TD>18.7 mpg</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=insettxt>Recommended fuel *SAE certified</TD><TD>Regular unleaded </TD><TD>Regular unleaded</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

bg2pres 02-08-2007 04:18 PM
The thing for me to make the Ex above the Sub is the third row automatic laydown feature. YOU STILL HAVE TO TAKE THE SEATS OUT OF THE VEHICLE ON THE SUBURBAN. CAN'T BELIEVE IT... Ford got them there..

i eat hybrids 02-09-2007 09:47 AM
The EL owns the new burb. Hands Down

Mud Doc 02-09-2007 08:45 PM
Isn't the 6.0L available in the Suburban? At about 335 hp?

chaparro 02-09-2007 11:17 PM
Good for Ford
 
Originally Posted by Mud Doc
Isn't the 6.0L available in the Suburban? At about 335 hp?
Yes it does and it power is 365 hp. In the Truck Trend magazine they compare the 6.0 sub vs 5.4 Exp. and pulling a 2 ton boat, the subs engine overheat. The gpm were 8.6 the sub and 11.4 the exp. And the exp was faster in flatland and up hill. if you want more inf. log into trucktrend.com and look for 2007 suburban vs expedition.

NoMo 02-14-2007 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by chaparro
Yes it does and it power is 365 hp. In the Truck Trend magazine they compare the 6.0 sub vs 5.4 Exp. and pulling a 2 ton boat, the subs engine overheat. The gpm were 8.6 the sub and 11.4 the exp. And the exp was faster in flatland and up hill. if you want more inf. log into trucktrend.com and look for 2007 suburban vs expedition.
This is the only head-to-head comparison I could find. The Suburban in that comparison had the 5.3L engine. Do you have a link to the article you mention with the 6.0L test?

kenttrudiw 02-15-2007 02:43 PM
It is now on the home page of Truck trend right at the top.

NoMo 02-15-2007 03:35 PM
Thanks!

It's interesting to see how the opinions and measurements changed from one article to the other.

On Edit:
Wonder why the Suburban pictured in their article isn't the one they claim to have tested.

kenttrudiw 02-15-2007 05:36 PM
The good thing is that the Expeditions are getting a lot of write ups in these mags and various web sites.

I believe they are all very positive, the only loss is to the GMC Denali (which cost around $7500 more)

Mud Doc 02-15-2007 10:44 PM
(+$7500 for Denali) I was a little concerned at this cost, but maybe is correct. Trying to use KBB as MSRP listings, EXPY EL would be about $51K, and Denali about $57K. Biggest diff on paper is 380 horsepower.

Also, according to some registrations, Ford is leading GM on newer large SUV sales.

edgl 02-15-2007 11:18 PM
GM has a 100,000 mile warranty now on their 07s.


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