Rotunda tool
I found that you can push the ceramic down until it hits the ground strap. That gave me enough room to use a 9mmx1 bottomtapto tap the shield and pull it out of the head with the ceramic in it. I made a tool like ford uses to thread and pull the ground shield.
This is the tool that was recomended to me on this site, got one on EBay this weekend but have not tried it yet. Looks like it will do the job. Spark Plug Removal Tool For The Ford 5.4L F150. Rotunda Part# 303-1203. <!-- End Description --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY></TBODY></TABLE> <HR><CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR class=ebay><TD align=middle>http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif</TD><TD>http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif</TD><TD class=help>http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifSelect a picture</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=502><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width="100%"> https://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/de/c2/0cbe_1.JPG http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=20 rowSpan=2>http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif</TD><TD vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>https://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/de/c2/0cbe_0.JPG</TD><TD align=middle>https://i20.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/de/c2/0d0b_0.JPG</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER>******** language=Javascript><!-- document.write('</style>'); document.write('</form>'); document.write('<'+'/script'+'>');//-->*********></STYLE></FORM>*********> |
TYLUS. You know bud...alot of folks NEED this info. What is it to YOU if the thread keeps going????? Just had to ask?? IFFF you do not like the thread do NOT read/subscribe to it! simple enough? Joe
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Need info on how to get this tool please:eek:
Originally Posted by WilZol
(Post 5803222)
Here is a picture of the tools that wasa 4246 sent me.
Any more information will have to come from them. Looks quite complete to me. https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...179385.520.390 |
Just look it up on EBay it will save you plenty of money, instead of going to Microprototype. I payed $120 for it.
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Originally Posted by Good Guy
(Post 4277720)
I've got 39,000 miles now. Do you think I should try and remove the plugs or let a dealer handle it for $450? Has anyone pulled them past this mileage yet? If so, what did they look like?
The last time I was at the dealer, I brought up the plug issue and he said they are recommending getting the plugs changed at around 70k instead of 100k. Also, who knows where to get this Kroil stuff from? just had mine done 73,000 kl Plugs where $ 17.00 each had new belt installed trany flush fuel filter $ 280 parts $298 labour all plugs came out clean only problem milage is down 2 MPG ?? Dealer said they neet some time to breack in ? about 2 tanks fuel will be keeping a eye on it |
Tried. Cannot find anything like this for less than $230 or so on ebay??? Thanks,Joe
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It has been a year since the last post. Has this thread died or moved. I could use some insight and pointers on the plug extraction tool
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Originally Posted by EBTDM
(Post 7452821)
It has been a year since the last post. Has this thread died or moved. I could use some insight and pointers on the plug extraction tool
Have you already broke your sparkplug, or are you just doing your homework in case it happens? |
Luck has everything to do with this.
Thank you for responding. I do appreciate it:). Did the research:-hair. Studied both TSBs:-tap. Read the Posts. Accordingly did the spark plug removal, and broke two:mad:, #1 & #3. Found the removal tool and have ordered, All since my last post:-banghead. Now I wait for the tool and hope it works for me or I will be removing the head. Is there a forum for the removal of the heads:-X16? I have not found it on a search.
Oh, and for the next shade tree or back alley compadre, here is a pointer to the tool I ordered. http://www.unbeatablesale.com/egle045.html It is a CAL VAN 391 5.4L Ford Spark Plug Extractor. |
Originally Posted by EBTDM
(Post 7461176)
Thank you for responding. I do appreciate it:). Did the research:-hair. Studied both TSBs:-tap. Read the Posts. Accordingly did the spark plug removal, and broke two:mad:, #1 & #3. Found the removal tool and have ordered, All since my last post:-banghead. Now I wait for the tool and hope it works for me or I will be removing the head. Is there a forum for the removal of the heads:-X16? I have not found it on a search.
Oh, and for the next shade tree or back alley compadre, here is a pointer to the tool I ordered. CAL VAN 391 5.4L Ford Spark Plug Extractor It is a CAL VAN 391 5.4L Ford Spark Plug Extractor. |
Which type of break did you get? The porcelin pulled out along with the body of the plug, so only the tube remains, or the porcelin broke off along with the tube or my favorite (this is what 2 of my 3 broken plugs did), the center electrode, porcelin and tube all broke off.
I used a tool similar to what you ordered. All I had to do was break up and or drive down the porcelin enough to get the tap in to use the tool. 2 came out slicker then .... my last one was a bit more of a hassle. You shouldn't need to pull your heads. Just remain calm while finishing the job. Luck, yup, that's a factor. Unless you're one who got all 8 out without breakage. Then luck had nothing to do with it. That's the consensus I've found on this and other Ford sites. Not that it matters. |
Luck definetly has everything to do with this.
:-banghead#1 the porcelain and the electrode stayed in the sleeve. #3 the porcelain only.
Is there anyone following the conversation, that pulled the heads and would like to chime in? Do I really need to lift the walk-a-way up on this truck? This does not look like an overhead cam but I am not sure. Does anyone have a pointer to a good service manual or on-line source? I have never felt a manual that is a ½” to ¾” thick as reliable:-huh. I thank you guys :-drink for your kind words and thoughts for this old time roadster mechanic. I got a lot of miles under my hoods:-jammin. Now for my:mad: soapbox rant:-offtopic. If there were a skill factor to this, then the dealerships would stand behind their mechanics and cover the additional labor and cost. It is just that simple! Ford will not cover the additional expense and apparently does not support any training to provide a skill set to pull these plugs. Another statement to luck and not skill. The first TSB follows a procedure almost to the letter that we used back in the 60's on vans that were rusted and actually difficult to get the correct angles to remove the plugs. There are some old mechanics still alive out there, that can attest to this and even the use of wax on stuck threads. The second TSB written because apparently the shade tree skill level out there does not allow for the evaporation of a solvent when heated so they applied the penetrating oil when the engine was too hot. |
Originally Posted by EBTDM
(Post 7465579)
If there were a skill factor to this, then the dealerships would stand behind their mechanics and cover the additional labor and cost. It is just that simple! Ford will not cover the additional expense and apparently does not support any training to provide a skill set to pull these plugs. Another statement to luck and not skill.
The first TSB follows a procedure almost to the letter that we used back in the 60's on vans that were rusted and actually difficult to get the correct angles to remove the plugs. There are some old mechanics still alive out there, that can attest to this and even the use of wax on stuck threads. The second TSB written because apparently the shade tree skill level out there does not allow for the evaporation of a solvent when heated so they applied the penetrating oil when the engine was too hot. For what ever it is worth my cousin pulled his heads and he said he didn't have to jack up the body. I know he pulled them has pictures I dont if he's tellingthe truth about the body. |
You are correct, and sorry about my earlier rant, I am still a bit miffed about the situation that I am in.
Thank you for the insight. Has your cousin posted his pictures anywhere that "We who are about to....." can see them and possibly read a write-up of his experience? That could be helpful or at least alleviate some of the stress factor. On a side note, the tool that I ordered has already shipped and according to the tracking information, possibly may be delivered today. This would indicate that this weekend would be "D-Day" as long as the weather clears up. |
How many miles were on your plugs when you tried to remove them??
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