F-250LD Front Rotors stuck! Help! 4x4
Guys
Trying to replace the rotors on my 1999 F-250LD <7 lug> 4x4. The rotors sure look like the hubless type but for the life of me I cant beat them off the hub! I tried to remove the axle nut and beat them and it looks like all Im doing is seperating the hub bearing. Is this typical or have I missed something?? These are hubless rotors correct? Thanks much Tommy D |
Ok I used a can and 1/2 of PB Blaster on the front rotors. Still beating them <and me> sensless with a BFH got me no where. No.. thats not true, I cracked the DS rotor.
Going to buckle it up for the night and drive it home <as long as I dont see sparks!> If someone reads this who has done the 7 lug front <4x4> just let me know if its a typical hubless rotor. Just unreal.... ya know?? Tommy D |
Looking at the new rotors today <yes I made it home last night!> it looks almost like the wheel studs might press fit.
Guys Im really at a loss here. Do I drive the wheel studs in and then pull <hammer> the rotor off the hub? Do I pull the hub/rotor intact? Grrrrrrr Tommy D |
Nope, sounds like you've got stuckon rotors. The studs are part of the hub. All you need to remove is the tire, caliper and bracket. Maybe some heat, and a biggerfh. Best wishes, before you install the new rotors, slap some ecto-lube or anti-seize on the hub and the back side of the rotor. Same with the rears if you go there. Rob
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I can't help you on this one, Tommy. I have yet to replace the rotors, but it'll be soon.
My understanding is all 4x4 front discs on F150s/ 250LDs of this era are pressed to the hub. You have to remove hub and all. I maybe incorrect, but what you have ran across makes it sound more like a fact. -Kerry |
Can you post a picture of the front and back of the rotor/hub assemblies?
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It's simply rusted on bro. The lug nuts hold the rotor on the hub. Nothing is pressed anywhere. Where in NY are you? I wish I could come over and help. Pretty hot today though. Rob
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Originally Posted by 7700Rob
It's simply rusted on bro. The lug nuts hold the rotor on the hub. Nothing is pressed anywhere. Where in NY are you? I wish I could come over and help. Pretty hot today though. Rob
Ill give it a shot again next week. Like I said from looking at the rotors they appear free floating. There is a countersunk portion of the new 7 lug rotors that looked like the wheel studs MIGHT press onto. When I tell you I was beating the hell out of them, Im not kidding. The truck was up on a lift and I was useing a home made "short sledge" I used to get stuck DRW off GMC 3500HDs. Again I hit them hard enough to brake the inside portion of the driver side rotor. Speaking to a Ford dealer mechanic <FWIW> he told me "have fun". Basically the last set he did took him 3 hrs and with lots of hammering and a torch he finally got them off. No offence but Ford.... there has GOT to be a better way. Tommy D |
Then these are like the rear discs, which I have had apart. The studs do press out or do what I did and get a block of wood and that mini sledge and knock them out. The better way you asked about comes after you get the mess separated. You put a coat of no-ox or anti-sieze between the hub/studs and the rotor where it slips on to prevent the stuff from corroding together, again.
I would have figured Dave would be in on this. Racerguy, any opions in the matter? -Kerry |
Originally Posted by kspilkinton
The studs do press out or do what I did and get a block of wood and that mini sledge and knock them out.
-Kerry What you are saying goes against what the Ford tech said. Don't get me wrong I dont know if this guy knew beans about the 250LD but he indicated again it was a full floating rotor. Perhaps <and I do mean perhaps Im not sure> I can beat the wheel studs back some with the rotor on the truck. Not all the way out mind you <pretty sure you cant>, but enough so that they are no longer pressed/snug into the rotor. I really wish someone whom has broken down one of these Rotors would chime in. Thanks Tommy D |
Have you tried the "CANDLE TRICK" on it yet?
If it works on THIS it will loosen anything.... |
Originally Posted by tommytorino
Long way from you! Down on Long Island.
Ill give it a shot again next week. Like I said from looking at the rotors they appear free floating. There is a countersunk portion of the new 7 lug rotors that looked like the wheel studs MIGHT press onto. When I tell you I was beating the hell out of them, Im not kidding. The truck was up on a lift and I was useing a home made "short sledge" I used to get stuck DRW off GMC 3500HDs. Again I hit them hard enough to brake the inside portion of the driver side rotor. Speaking to a Ford dealer mechanic <FWIW> he told me "have fun". Basically the last set he did took him 3 hrs and with lots of hammering and a torch he finally got them off. No offence but Ford.... there has GOT to be a better way. Tommy D never-seize will be your friend when you put them back together. |
Originally Posted by Greywolf
Have you tried the "CANDLE TRICK" on it yet?
If it works on THIS it will loosen anything.... Tommy D |
Originally Posted by tommytorino
What in Gods Name is the Candle Trick? :-D
Tommy D |
Originally Posted by bremen242
if they are that stuck, your best bet is probably to slice them with a cutting disc. they aren't press on, just rusted. cut an X into the face of the rotor (becareful not to cut into the hub), and that should relieve some of the tension.
never-seize will be your friend when you put them back together. Understood about the sliver slop <never sieze> we use it all the time at work. We also service Jeep Cherokees at work. These 4x4's LIVE on the beach <read salt water> and Ill say it again, I have never seen a rotor "stuck" like on my Ford. Oh well sounds like its all over but the cryin'. I just hope your right and the wheel studs are NOT pressed into the rotors! Tommy D |
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