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Fraalan 06-28-2006 08:32 PM

B-100 blackens oil faster?
 
I am 2000 miles into my 1st go around with rotella 5-40.
I am already dark black and was wondering if this is a result of running bio
Or is this a result of the rotella cleaning out the soot from the last 115k miles??

Thank you

Phydeaux88 06-28-2006 11:51 PM

I would guess it is due to the detergent action of BD.
BD is an oxygenated fuel and thus less likely to produce soot.

adambomb 06-29-2006 10:26 AM


Fraalan I am 2000 miles into my 1st go around with rotella 5-40.
I am already dark black and was wondering if this is a result of running bio
Or is this a result of the rotella cleaning out the soot from the last 115k miles??
I am in the same position as you are. I just made the switch to synthetic rotella around 2K miles ago and have been using between B20-B99. I have checked my oil recently and it was pretty dark black, even right after doing the oil change. I think its just the nature of our diesel engines, even fresh oil turns black almost instintly. I would also be very interested in knowing what everyone else has to say.

catbird7 06-29-2006 11:31 AM

I change every 5000 with rotella 5-40 and it turns black within the first few miles. My engine is older (1989 7.3idi) with 155k miles and I burn lots of (according to some on this website) questionable fuels. ex: Used motor oil, K-1, filtered veg oil. Truck runs great, no smoke, 20+ mpg, decent power.

Fraalan 06-29-2006 11:43 AM

you put used motor oil in your regular tank?

catbird7 06-29-2006 12:22 PM

I don't want to start the used motor oil thing again because opinions very from one extreme to the other. Use it / don't use it???? I am not advising anyone to do this however, this is what I use during the summer months and it works for me. 5 gals diesel fuel, 5 gals of filtered wvo, 1 gal of filtered used motor oil and sometimes a splash of acetone (5oz.)

kennedyford 06-29-2006 02:07 PM

When you use the bio you need to be aware that you are super cleaning your engine and where does it go? The oil. And remember even when you change the oil there is still quite a bit in the oil pumps and resevoirs. Instant black unless you hook up a constant supply and flush your system.

PSNut 07-05-2006 09:38 PM

Just like a good colon cleanse.:-D On a more serious note this is where bypass oil filtration would come in handy removing the soot deposits. Give a system a try.
Nut

adambomb 07-06-2006 01:44 AM


When you use the bio you need to be aware that you are super cleaning your engine and where does it go? The oil. And remember even when you change the oil there is still quite a bit in the oil pumps and resevoirs. Instant black unless you hook up a constant supply and flush your system.
so does this mean you should change your oil sooner if you run bio?

Fraalan 07-06-2006 10:37 AM

I have a motor guard ready to go.

TY

kennedyford 07-06-2006 11:21 AM

Adam, it just means that you will need to change your systems filters by at least the 2nd tank of bio. That is providing that your system is that dirty. After the initial cleaning by the bio you will have longer lasting oil and filters because of how clean you make it or purchase it.

adambomb 07-06-2006 11:44 AM

alright thanks:-X22

just to clear it up for me. system filters i should change include: fuel, oil, ???.

thanks again, i really appreciate the info.

Fraalan 07-06-2006 11:51 AM

just the fuel filter.
Have you started running bio yet?

kennedyford 07-06-2006 01:16 PM

No thats not true. You will want to change your oil. The cylinder walls will be supercleaned as well as any valve surface areas where any carbon build up is possible. Any junk or buildup in the injector tips will come out too. Just watch your oil close.

adambomb 07-06-2006 03:03 PM


just the fuel filter.
Have you started running bio yet?
Yeah i've been running bio diesel the last few months. I changed my fuel filter after first tank, not overly cloged, and also changed my oil with rotella 5-40 but only because it was time to do so. Made the drive from so cal to northern cali the other week using B99 made from soy bean oil. My truck never ran smoother, and you got to love suporting american farmers and helping the enviornment at the same time 8D .

moneypitt 07-08-2006 10:29 PM

I am getting ready for my first oil change since I've been running bio. Just wondering what the benefits of 5-40 are instead of 15-40??

Thanks,

Thanks moneypitt

kennedyford 07-10-2006 10:02 AM

I would not put in 5-40. Viscosity will be too thin for a diesel.

PSNut 07-10-2006 11:45 AM

5W-40 is fine for your truck year round. Better cold weather flow and starting.

phish555 11-02-2006 10:02 PM

I have had a couple of ford diesels. I just started making and using my own bio-diesel a few months ago. Started using it at about a b-90 mix, now that the weather is getting cold (in the teens at night), I am mixing it at about b-50. The truck I have now is an 06, and the oil is black every time I change it at about 5k intervals. My truck has 69k miles on it (yes i know that is a lot of miles for an 06). My last oil change was a few weeks ago, and the oil looked the same as always. I figure most of the milage between this change and the last were run on bio-diesel. Bio is a solvent, and it does clean everything from the fuel tank and up. But remember, your driving a diesel. My last truck never saw any bio-diesel. It was a 94 turbo diesel that had 100k on it when I bought it, and 205k when I sold it. I could change the oil in that one, drive it around the block, check the oil and it would be black as coal. Point being that it dosn't take long after an oil change for the oil to look black. I think when running bio its a good idea to keep an eye on your oil and change it at shorter intervals.

firesoutmatt 11-22-2006 09:57 PM

I've been running bio since new and oil gets dirty pretty quick and change at 5k

So I don't think its the bio but just that its a diesel . :-X22

firesoutmatt 11-22-2006 09:59 PM

Oh yea I run 15w40 Delco diesel

bterry 12-02-2006 06:22 PM

I'm glad I found this thread, and apologies to OP for hijacking, but felt it was better this way than ask the same question again.

At any rate, I recently bought a 1992 7.3 dump truck. It has 46.5K miles on it. I've been running B95ish since I bought it this summer but have only put about 500 miles on it. The oil wasn't due to be changed and was still at full with 2000 miles yet to go. When I checked it today it was BLACK and felt dirty so I immediately changed with 15-40 Rottela T. It was black again immediately - but now feels smooth and slick.

I've read in this thread it'd be a good idea to change again at 3-5K, but I'm alittle nervous. Anybody wanna give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about this?

BTW - I also stopped using bio today and filled up with dino (my bio supplier doesn't have any winter additive). Maybe run up to 25% bio over the winter.

willbd 12-02-2006 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by bterry
I'm glad I found this thread, and apologies to OP for hijacking, but felt it was better this way than ask the same question again.

At any rate, I recently bought a 1992 7.3 dump truck. It has 46.5K miles on it. I've been running B95ish since I bought it this summer but have only put about 500 miles on it. The oil wasn't due to be changed and was still at full with 2000 miles yet to go. When I checked it today it was BLACK and felt dirty so I immediately changed with 15-40 Rottela T. It was black again immediately - but now feels smooth and slick.

I've read in this thread it'd be a good idea to change again at 3-5K, but I'm alittle nervous. Anybody wanna give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about this?

BTW - I also stopped using bio today and filled up with dino (my bio supplier doesn't have any winter additive). Maybe run up to 25% bio over the winter.

How many days from you last oil change did you change your oil. I change mine every 90 days or 4K miles.

Check out this link. http://www.practicingoilanalysis.com...up=OilAnalysis

bterry 12-03-2006 05:05 AM

Interesting reading. I don't know when the previous oil change was done, as it was done at the dealer before I bought the truck. I suspect spring time, but there's no way of knowing. I can also only speculate on the miles - the sticker said it was due 2000 miles from now. What do you figure the dealer used as an interval?

I had to buy a bigger drain pan because of the whopping 11 qt. capacity, and the fact it's my first diesel. I'm thinking I might have it tested - it should be OK pouring a sample out of the brand new container (right?).

willbd 12-03-2006 09:12 AM

No issue with the sample from the new drain pan. I have used Blackstone labs for oil anlysis. They are a sponsor on this site.


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