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bigredtruckmi 05-22-2005 05:53 PM

biodiesel rebate
 
Just got a check from my fuel supplier for a rebate on biodiesel blend fuels.

This is what the letter in part says.

On January 1, 2005 the federal government started a 2 year program to encourage the sale of biodiesel products.

We at XXX energy company are sending a one time rebate to you, which is equal to one cent per percent of Soydiesel blend per gallon purchased from January 1 , 2005 to April 30, 2005. For example if you purchased B20 or 20% biodiesel you receive 20 cents per gallon purchased.

Beginning 1 May 05 the price reduction will be figured into the price of the fuel.

I thought this is a great program and hope everyone can try out the B2 or B5 fuel. I know I have like the fuel. :-X22

HeavyAssault 05-22-2005 06:46 PM

Ford doesn't recommend biodiesel to be used in the 6.0L.

bigredtruckmi 05-22-2005 07:11 PM

According to Grand Ledge Ford service department I can use up to B5 with NO warranty problems. I checked before purchase and they showed me the ford position on this. Broadcast msg 0884, 3626

LOOnatic 05-22-2005 08:52 PM

The Ford allowance is max B5.
Its a start.............. :-roll

I have run B100 with no ill effects.

3/4ER 05-23-2005 02:19 AM

Problem is Bio leaves deposits on the injectors, the healtier the dose, the more deposits.

IB Tim 05-23-2005 07:19 AM

What type of deposits?

me1mckee 05-23-2005 07:54 PM

Good question Tim. I too am curious, what type of deposits does it leave on the injectors?

3/4ER 05-23-2005 09:03 PM

It's hard to keep track of all the things you come across concerning biodiesel, SVO, WVO, etc.
It's your choice, your warranty. I'm sure if this stuff is the miricle elixor it's made out to be, Ford wouldn't too concerned about it.

firesoutmatt 05-23-2005 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by HeavyAssault
Ford doesn't recommend biodiesel to be used in the 6.0L.

Ford doesn't recommend mods but you have a ton of them ? :-X02

clevelandjim 05-23-2005 09:26 PM


Ford all so doesn't recommend mods but you have a ton of them ?
I think you got a lot of us with that one.

LOOnatic 05-23-2005 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by 3/4ER
It's hard to keep track of all the things you come across concerning biodiesel, SVO, WVO, etc.
It's your choice, your warranty. I'm sure if this stuff is the miricle elixor it's made out to be, Ford wouldn't too concerned about it.

Ah ...nice try at discrediting biodiesel with a clever adjective.
The truth is that the original diesel engines ran on biodiesel or rather what was the most available fuel of the time.
IE, vegetable oil diesel as petroleum didn't become the mainstay for several years yet.
People act like using biodiesel is some hippy progresive thing and actually its not.
Its coming full circle on the energy cycle.

If i happen to mention "solar power" would you run for the hills too? :-roll

JDJINTX 05-23-2005 11:16 PM

I thought the deposits were the result of other contaminants (already present from petroleum diesel) being flushed out by the biodiesel. If everything gets cleaned out before the biodiesel is introduced you're supposed to be OK. Anyone else remember reading this?

IB Tim 05-24-2005 07:33 AM

IMO there is nothing wrong with running Bio....now how much % is still a bit in the air...we know what Ford recommends, that is cool...however where is the % you start to see a noticeable difference in both performance and overall reliability on ALL parts.

Remember the 6.0 is a new form of diesel ,,,,does that make a difference, for discussion purposes….would we think different if we all were talking 7.3

firesoutmatt 05-24-2005 10:22 AM

Well not to pop your bio-diesel bashing bubble but if anybody would reserch this they would find out the truth. When the diesel engine was invented is was designed to run on peanut oil. Diesel invented this engine so the farmers who where going to be useing it could produce their own fuel. It wasn't untill years and years later when the oil company found out that diesel fuel was a by product of refineing gasoiline. Of course the oil companys don't want you to know that a diesel engine will run on things other than their diesel fuel. There are documented cases of people running on B100 which is 100% soy and others running on veg. and used cooking oil with no ill effects. Fords stand on it is very conservitive with the B5 and the only problem they did find is useing B100 that the injectors would fail at the tip on a few engines. There was no other problems running B100 and there have been no problems running B5 as to date.
So you can say want you want and bash bio-diesel all you want but facts are facts and please get them straight before you offer info on something you know nothing about.

LOOnatic 05-24-2005 10:35 AM

Thanks Matt for sharing what you know.
What's slightly odd is that injectors fail "a few" 6.0's including models that have never run biodiesel so i', not sure what point that validates?
I'm not sure if you support the use of biodiesel or not by your post.

I stated that early diesels ran off vegetable oil but you clarified peanuts as the source.
Are peanuts a vegetable?

Anyway, do you know if Ford was using the same source for B100 in their tests?


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