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Deadsquiggles 09-03-2014 05:57 PM

351 build underway
 
Operation GoFastBadAss is officially underway.
Finally found a 351 roller, cast number F4TE. The plan is to build it up and swap it into my Bronco.
I figure I'll start putting together a parts list. Please chime in if you see something wrong.
1994 Roller block, stock bottom end
GT40 heads
This intake: Intake Manifolds - Ford - 5.8L- Performer Series - Edelbrock, LLC.
New distributor (open to suggestions)
Gonna try and find some long tube headers (open to suggestions)
Not sure about a cam yet, trying to find something with good power off idle.
5.8l ECM
New Ypipe
CAI

Hope to get some pictures up and make some progress.

Deadsquiggles 09-03-2014 08:09 PM

I was thinking this cam would be good.
http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=1654&gid=254
I can't really find much else with a desirable RPM range for a hydraulic roller cam.

Conanski 09-04-2014 10:08 AM

The cam you want is the Comp 35-512-8, notice it has 114 LSA.

There is no need for anything but a stock Ford distributor, there are no performance gains to be had with it.

Pacesetter makes some of the best fitting longtubes, avoid Flowtech and Hooker. There is also the OBX brand available on eBay that a friend of mine has installed on his Focus and F150 and he said the fit was excellent, these are stainless too so the price is also excellent. OBX Exhaust Header 87 96 Bronco F150 F250 5 8L V8 351 | eBay

Deadsquiggles 09-04-2014 11:06 AM

I never even thought about 5.0HO cams.

What parts do I need to mate the new 351 to my E4OD since there's a 302 in there right now? And for engine control, all I need is a new ECM and then the 302 harness just plugs in or would I need the 351 harness?

Conanski 09-04-2014 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Deadsquiggles (Post 14639424)
I never even thought about 5.0HO cams.

All windsor family engines use the same cams.


Originally Posted by Deadsquiggles (Post 14639424)
What parts do I need to mate the new 351 to my E4OD since there's a 302 in there right now?

You need a 28oz E4OD flexplate, the 5.0 version is 50oz.


Originally Posted by Deadsquiggles (Post 14639424)
And for engine control, all I need is a new ECM and then the 302 harness just plugs in or would I need the 351 harness?

Harnesses are the same so get a 5.8/E4OD PCM and you should be good.

Deadsquiggles 09-04-2014 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Conanski (Post 14640582)
All windsor family engines use the same cams. You need a 28oz E4OD flexplate, the 5.0 version is 50oz. Harnesses are the same so get a 5.8/E4OD PCM and you should be good.

I thought there was a difference between the 5.0 cams and the 5.0HO/5.8 cams because of firing order. And there's no flywheel difference or is that a manual tranny only?

Conanski 09-04-2014 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Deadsquiggles (Post 14640810)
I thought there was a difference between the 5.0 cams and the 5.0HO/5.8 cams because of firing order.

There are two different firing orders but both will work in any windsor family motor since the cam itself determines that. Otherwise all these cams are the same length with the same journal sizes and positions so the same cam will plug into a 289, 302, or 351.



Originally Posted by Deadsquiggles (Post 14640810)
And there's no flywheel difference or is that a manual tranny only?

Auto transmissions use a flexplate not a flywheel and there is a balance difference.

baddad457 09-04-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadsquiggles (Post 14640810)
I thought there was a difference between the 5.0 cams and the 5.0HO/5.8 cams because of firing order. And there's no flywheel difference or is that a manual tranny only?

}> Well you CAN use the 5.0 flexplate, but you're not going to be happy with the "Whole Lotta Shakin Goin On" with it on a 351W }>

Deadsquiggles 09-06-2014 01:10 PM

well the deal fell through. The day I went to pick the engine up, the guy decides to wait until I get there that he's gonna keep the engine to drop in a fox body. Thinking about sticking with 302 and building that just cause of availability. I think they can still make good power.


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