Convert a f100 back to y block
I'm looking at a 56 f100 someone converted to 350 chevy (idiots!). Can I easily convert it back to a y block, or is it a big hassle?
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Originally Posted by sdhagerman
(Post 14581948)
I'm looking at a 56 f100 someone converted to 350 chevy (idiots!). Can I easily convert it back to a y block, or is it a big hassle?
Do you still have these corssmembers left? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ku1sU39oQb...0/DSC_0395.JPG |
Thanks Jim for responding,
Yeah, typically the guy bought the truck already converted. so what's there is it. Whatever I do will require me putting it back to normal. My main concern is what may have been cut out to do the engine swap. If it's just a matter of putting the original mounts back in, that's doable, but if it was all chopped up, I don't think I want to tackle it. steve |
Originally Posted by sdhagerman
(Post 14581990)
Thanks Jim for responding,
Yeah, typically the guy bought the truck already converted. so what's there is it. Whatever I do will require me putting it back to normal. My main concern is what may have been cut out to do the engine swap. If it's just a matter of putting the original mounts back in, that's doable, but if it was all chopped up, I don't think I want to tackle it. steve do you still have the beam front axle? Check underneth to see if you can find the crossmembers that you see in the picture I attached. Have the framerails been boxed? ie instead of a u-shape, they might have placed a steel plate in the inside of the frame rail giving u a rectangular shape instead |
The y block in these trucks has one front (timingcover) and 2 rear (bellhousing) motormounts. So you need to find out if they have cut out these two Crossmembers that you see in my picture above.
Its likely they have added a crossmeber between these two for the sidemounts for the Chebby, and probably they have removed of cut away the rear crossmember (the one just under the end of the plywood) and replaced that with some tubular bolt on that fits your gearbox. Remowing the rear engine crossmember on these truck makes the front cab frame members (outside) to sag and you can get a missalignment on the whole front sheetmetal....... The rear orignial crossmember holds the rear of the engine and trans and also keeps the framrail together and straight, preventing the front cab members to sag |
Originally Posted by sdhagerman
(Post 14581948)
I'm looking at a 56 f100 someone converted to 350 chevy (idiots!). Can I easily convert it back to a y block, or is it a big hassle?
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Newest 302 to put into 1981 F100?
Originally Posted by sdhagerman
(Post 14581948)
I'm looking at a 56 f100 someone converted to 350 chevy (idiots!). Can I easily convert it back to a y block, or is it a big hassle?
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When considering the feasibility of changing back to a Y block, be mindful of what you have and what you need as a donor engine package. Cars and trucks use different engine mounting.
Just a FWIW but is the rest of the truck still entirely stock enough to justify going back to a Y block? Chevy makes a good reliable engine and if the swap is done correctly makes a good combination. What do you envision for the truck? Driver, concourse correct show truck, or other? |
Originally Posted by bjmayberry2
(Post 14582316)
It's probably very doable. You'll really need to take some pictures and let us see how the PO put the 350 in. If they bought a mount kit many were bolt in and can easily be removed. I doubt they removed the front crossmember because that's where the radiator mounts and all the sheet metal hangs off of. The real question is the rear mount between the front cab mounts. If it is there, and in tact, you're Golden! Keep in mind there is not a transmission cross member on these old trucks. The tranny hangs off the back of the bell housing. That's why the crossmember between the cab mounts is so important.
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Originally Posted by jimcar-9
(Post 14582449)
They could still have removed the front motor crossmember. It s not the same as the radiator and sheetmetal is mounted on...
The 6 cyl mount attaches to the radiator support crossmember |
Originally Posted by bigwin56f100
(Post 14582574)
Correct the v-8 powered 53-56 have an additional cross member for the front mount
The 6 cyl mount attaches to the radiator support crossmember |
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You need to have these two cross members. The front to mount the engine, radiator support and front clip to. The back one to mount the rear motor mounts to.
Attachment 103933 I know my back mount is cut. The PO did it so they could remove the automatic without pulling the engine. :-X19 OBTW this was a 6 cylinder. |
Originally Posted by bjmayberry2
(Post 14582686)
You need to have these two cross members. The front to mount the engine, radiator support and front clip to. The back one to mount the rear motor mounts to.
Attachment 103933 I know my back mount is cut. The PO did it so they could remove the automatic without pulling the engine. :-X19 OBTW this was a 6 cylinder. |
I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to this stuff, but cutting a crossmember, wow!
Here are pictures of the 8 cylinder crossmembers. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...fd0474bb85.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...80b1e7f69f.jpg |
No, no, no. That'll never work, Harrier.. Those are WAY TOO CLEAN!
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