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mechmagcn 05-06-2016 07:07 PM

Mark, that is looking great! One of these days I'm gonna find time to come up that way and see this ride in person.

38 coupe 05-07-2016 07:04 AM

Bummer on the auxiliary transmission sound. One question (feel free to give the look you give someone who asks a really dumb question), did you fill the auxiliary with oil?

As always, great looking work.

49fordv8f4 05-07-2016 07:22 PM

Thanks Jeff, Come up anytime I look forward to meeting you. I'd love to see your truck also!
Mark

49fordv8f4 05-07-2016 07:37 PM

Fred, that's not a dumb question. It would be very easy to forget the oil in the excitement of hearing it run. But, I did have oil in it. It probably should be 140W, I have 85-90W in it. I rebuilt it several years ago but for some reason I didn't make a cover gasket and seal the top cover. I had the truck in my side shed on my shop for a while and some rain must have blown in while parked there. When I removed the top cover I could see evidence of water getting in, so I think maybe one of the input shaft bearings may be damaged. At least I hope it is that simple. I will have to pull it back apart and check. It does shift easy though, so the shifter is going to work ok.
Thanks for the compliments, Mark

49fordv8f4 05-09-2016 08:00 PM

I pulled out my 3 speed carrier bearing, aka Brownie, today and disassembled it. Water had damaged both input shaft tapered roller bearings and both cluster tapered roller bearings. I did find another issue that I didn't see when I rebuilt it several years ago. I was checking the gears for excess clearance before I removed any of the bearing retainers and I noticed the overdrive gear didn't feel smooth when I turned it on the shaft. It turns free on the splined mainshaft when not in overdrive. When I pulled the shafts out, I pulled the overdrive gear off and checked the I.D. The I.D. should be smooth, but I can feel grooves worn into the I.D. by the splines. Since parts are made from unobtainium, I will try to repair what I have. But to do the repair, I will have to eliminate low gear in the Brownie, so I will end up with straight thru and overdrive. I would probably used low very seldom, if ever, anyways. I guess we can't always move forward on our projects.
Thanks, Mark

38 coupe 05-13-2016 05:08 PM

Can you grind-plate-grind the ID of the overdrive gear? That was the repair method of choice for worn gear IDs and journals at the aircraft engine overhaul shop where I used to work.

I'm looking at the cross section in the parts manual. Out of curiosity what are you planning that would eliminate low?
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49fordv8f4 05-13-2016 06:41 PM

Fred, I was thinking of turning the splines off of the shaft B-1 and bushing the overdrive gear B-4, so I would have to eliminate low gear B-7 and low gear shift hub and ring B-8 and B-9, as there would be no splines for B-8 hub. I have thought about it some more and my thinking now is to bush the overdrive gear and low gear with a hardened steel sleeve with a bore .005" smaller than stock and grind the O.D. of the splines down about .006" to clean them up. I believe the splines on the shaft will center the low speed shift hub ok. I had thought about having the I.D. of both gears hard chrome plated and ground to size, but I think that would be more money than I could afford to put in it right now. Is that just a parts manual you copied that out of, or is it a service/installation manual also?
Thanks, Mark

38 coupe 05-14-2016 09:46 PM

That image is from a parts manual. I have that parts manual in individual pictures over on photobucket here; I have the same manual combined into one PDF file. I also have scans of the 1975 Hollander interchange for Spicer products. It has a very nice exploded view of the 5531. PM me your email address and I will send them to you.
I do not have an installation or service manual for the 5531. I do have scans of pages out of a GM manual that cover the 5831.

49fordv8f4 05-15-2016 05:14 PM

Thank you Fred for the offer to scan the pages for me. I really appreciate it. I sent you a PM.
Thanks again, Mark

49fordv8f4 09-04-2016 04:25 PM

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I have the Brownie rebuilt and ready to reinstall in the truck. I replaced all the bearings and bushed the overdrive and low speed gears with a hardened tool steel bushing honed to fit the reworked tailshaft. Everything seems smooth. Hopefully it will be quiet now. Here are a couple of pics.
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Thanks, Mark

49fordv8f4 09-19-2016 07:58 PM

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Brownie is back in and quiet. I have 3 qts of 140W and 1 qt of Lucas oil stabilizer in it. I noticed this evening while taking pictures that the PTO access covers are seeping a little. I have to replace all the u-joints in both driveshafts, so I will paint them after I do that. I also have to make new shift rods for the brownie and paint those also. The Brownie shifts really smooth.
Mark

49fordv8f4 09-19-2016 08:15 PM

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The MC has metric threads and the only fittings that I could find were AN fittings. I have two -4 AN brake hoses that I ordered from a racing supply. They are not DOT rated, but they are rated for 3000 psi. No one that I checked with sells DOT rated -4 AN hose with the 90 degree bend on the end. I plan on putting a piece of rubber hose over them to keep them from chaffing on the edge of the frame. I also have a couple of tube straps to install.https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...f6e3c46b39.jpg
I added a brace, the grey colored piece, to the lower edge of the MC mount, I noticed it flexed a little.
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This is the residual pressure valve and the tee to the front disc brakes.
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This is the Wilwood proportioning valve, the residual pressure valve and the brake light switch to the rear brakes. I used Loctite 569 hydraulic thread sealant and Loctite Primer T on all of the 1/8"npt fitting threads.
Thanks, Mark

daves77crew 11-20-2016 05:01 PM

Mark, How is your project going?

49fordv8f4 11-20-2016 08:20 PM

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Dave, Here is were I'm at right now. I have driven it to my Mom and Dad's, about a mile away, several times now. Next I will remove the inner fenders and radiator frame so I can take them and all the fender brackets and air deflectors to have them powder coated.
Thanks, Mark

daves77crew 11-21-2016 06:36 AM

Mark, I can see your ear to ear grin from all the way over here in Tennessee.
Great looking truck.
Dave


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