460 or ?
Bought my truck and the owner said it has a balanced and blue printed 460 out of a 71 Crown Vic. Went to O'Rielly's and tried to get some stuff for it but 460 isn't and option on the 71 Crown Vic. Or the Marqui. At least not in O'Rielly's system. So I was going to get casting numbers off the block but, yeah, no casting numbers. The spot where they are supposed to be according to other pics and other posts is vertically right above the starter? They arent there. Just a little inset oval with three little tits. I looked everywhere else I can physically get without pulling the motor. What gives? The heads are stamped D3VE-A2A. Can anyone help? Is it even 460? It looks like one and its giant. :-huh
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Originally Posted by AberrantGenus
(Post 14524813)
Bought my truck and the owner said it has a balanced and blue printed 460 out of a 71 Crown Vic. Went to O'Rielly's and tried to get some stuff for it but 460 isn't and option on the 71 Crown Vic. Or the Marqui. At least not in O'Rielly's system. So I was going to get casting numbers off the block but, yeah, no casting numbers. The spot where they are supposed to be according to other pics and other posts is vertically right above the starter? They arent there. Just a little inset oval with three little tits. I looked everywhere else I can physically get without pulling the motor. What gives? The heads are stamped D3VE-A2A. Can anyone help? Is it even 460? It looks like one and its giant. :-huh
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The full size was not called a CV in '71. The 400 and 429 were the big motors. But your D3.. heads are 1973 code, so something isn't right here.
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Only difference between the 429 and 460 are the crank and pistons. You'll have to measure the stroke to determine what you have.
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
(Post 14525121)
The full size was not called a CV in '71. The 400 and 429 were the big motors. But your D3.. heads are 1973 code, so something isn't right here.
How does it run? Besides the B&B, what else is supposed to be done? |
Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
(Post 14525203)
Only difference between the 429 and 460 are the crank and pistons. You'll have to measure the stroke to determine what you have.
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Originally Posted by AberrantGenus
(Post 14525705)
Yea, so do i have to take the heads off to do that?
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Originally Posted by redroad
(Post 14525731)
No not necessary .. Use a wood dowel in the spark plug hole ..
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Originally Posted by AberrantGenus
(Post 14525742)
Ok Awesome. So, i can take the plug out, wooden dowel rod, mark the bottom and the top of the stroke? I have to turn the engine some how. Would i do that with a big wrench and turn the crank pulley some how? Sorry for the green questions I just havn't jumped this deep in an engine before..
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Originally Posted by redroad
(Post 14525766)
If your strong a 1/2" breaker bar and deep well socket at the the front of the crankshaft .. If you want an easy go of it take out the plugs and inspect and clean them while your there or replace if needed .. The motor will turn much easier with them out .. You could also do a compression check too .. Just bring the motor up to normal operating temps before you do it with plugs out ..
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Originally Posted by AberrantGenus
(Post 14526921)
Ok. So I measured with a thin dowell rod. Did it twice from when the piston is at the bottom of the stroke and when it is at the top of the strok the distance is 4 and 19/32 or 4.59 inches. From what I am reading that is not the stroke of a 460 or a 429 huh?
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Originally Posted by redroad
(Post 14527718)
This sounds like some stroked 460 ..
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Did you make sure the dowel rod didn't move on the top of the piston? Meaning the dowel rod stayed at the same angle. I'm thinking your measurements are off somehow according to this chart:
Stroke (in.) Bore (in.) Overbore (in.) Displacement (cu. in.) 3.590 4.360 stock 429 3.850 4.360 stock 460 3.850 4.390 0.030 466 3.850 4.400 0.040 468 3.850 4.420 0.060 473 3.850 4.440 0.080 477 4.140 4.360 stock 494 4.140 4.390 0.030 501 4.140 4.400 0.040 503 4.140 4.420 0.060 508 4.140 4.440 0.080 513 4.300 4.360 stock 514 4.300 4.390 0.030 521 4.300 4.400 0.040 523 4.300 4.420 0.060 528 4.300 4.440 0.080 533 4.500 4.360 stock 537 4.500 4.390 0.030 545 4.400 4.400 0.040 547 4.500 4.420 0.060 552 4.500 4.440 0.080 557 |
Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
(Post 14528762)
Did you make sure the dowel rod didn't move on the top of the piston? Meaning the dowel rod stayed at the same angle. I'm thinking your measurements are off somehow according to this chart:
Stroke (in.) Bore (in.) Overbore (in.) Displacement (cu. in.) 3.590 4.360 stock 429 3.850 4.360 stock 460 3.850 4.390 0.030 466 3.850 4.400 0.040 468 3.850 4.420 0.060 473 3.850 4.440 0.080 477 4.140 4.360 stock 494 4.140 4.390 0.030 501 4.140 4.400 0.040 503 4.140 4.420 0.060 508 4.140 4.440 0.080 513 4.300 4.360 stock 514 4.300 4.390 0.030 521 4.300 4.400 0.040 523 4.300 4.420 0.060 528 4.300 4.440 0.080 533 4.500 4.360 stock 537 4.500 4.390 0.030 545 4.400 4.400 0.040 547 4.500 4.420 0.060 552 4.500 4.440 0.080 557 |
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