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Outlaw56 05-12-2014 09:19 AM

Removing Y block and Transmission
 
Will four grade 8 bolts mounted to carberator mount on intake withstand lifting engine with transmission in and out of truck?

charliemccraney 05-12-2014 09:55 AM

Yes. Grade 8 will be far more than adequate.

Outlaw56 05-12-2014 10:56 AM

Thanks Charlie, I guess my question was more about where to put the grade 8 bolts. Grade 8 bolts in the intake where it hooks to the block are 5/16" I believe. But the bolts that hook the carberator to a four barrell are smaller, maybe 1/4". I was wondering about lifting straight up on the intake carb mount opposed to the intake to block mounts with lifting engine and transmission combined. Not only smaller bolts, but thinner cast on the intake than the block.

charliemccraney 05-12-2014 01:19 PM

The carb flange is easiest.

Get yourself one of these:

http://www.summitracing.com/search?S...d=lift%20plate

and maybe one of these:

http://www.summitracing.com/search?S...load%20leveler

You can usually find those locally.

If you don't already have the hardware, save yourself some money and use standard bolts. It will be practically impossible for the load of the engine to cause a failure with 4 bolts of standard grade.

Outlaw56 05-12-2014 08:28 PM

Those look like a good investment. I just cringe at the weight thats placed on the top of that intake, but I guess its pretty common practice. For the first couple of lifts, the cab is off the frame so it will be engine and tranny together. I will check locally and if nothing, then get one ordered. Thanks!

HT32BSX115 05-17-2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outlaw56 (Post 14340023)
Will four grade 8 bolts mounted to carberator mount on intake withstand lifting engine with transmission in and out of truck?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ront_mount.jpg

You probably do not need grade 8 bolts. I am not using "8's"

I did use some angle steel though and I used nuts to tighten them flat to the heads.

Make sure you screw the bolts in far enough to engage all the threads though.......




Cheers,


Rick

Outlaw56 05-17-2014 05:50 PM

If your going to swap that over to an alternator Rick, dont do what I just did and put the dampner on before you fit the motor mount to the alternator bracket. In some applications, that stock front engine mount needs a little ground off to clear the alternator bracket. I have to remove my dampner to modify the motor mount. I guess I could do it installed but dont want the grinding mess in the motor area.

HT32BSX115 05-17-2014 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outlaw56 (Post 14355971)
If your going to swap that over to an alternator Rick, dont do what I just did and put the dampner on before you fit the motor mount to the alternator bracket. In some applications, that stock front engine mount needs a little ground off to clear the alternator bracket. I have to remove my dampner to modify the motor mount. I guess I could do it installed but dont want the grinding mess in the motor area.

Yeah. I am all over that! (btw, that front mount is gone!)

here's where I am so far!

The pulley on top might not happen. I may just put the fan directly on the water pump OR, go to electric fans(2) ! Ain't decided yet!


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN1839.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN1838.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN1837.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN1834.jpg

Outlaw56 05-17-2014 10:13 PM

oh yeah, I remember this thread from the mock up pulley on the top. What using for front motor mount then? It looks like it was in a 56 Ford Truck Chasis.

HT32BSX115 05-17-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outlaw56 (Post 14356798)
oh yeah, I remember this thread from the mock up pulley on the top. What using for front motor mount then? It looks like it was in a 56 Ford Truck Chasis.

I'm not using a "front" mount at all.

I using the side mounts and will have a rear trans mount because there's no bellhousing mount on this transmission.


It's a 55 F-600. I haven't worked it much in the last few years and have gotten back to working it now.

In a picture above, you can see stock car side mounts. I didn't use them at all and elected to use different mounts altogether




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Outlaw56 05-17-2014 11:08 PM

Good to see your back in the game. Nice work!

HT32BSX115 05-17-2014 11:48 PM

Thanks!

I have so many projects going at once, I had to put some of them on hold!

I'd like to get this thing running in the next year or so.......we'll see I guess. I'll probably have to retire to find the time!

Outlaw56 05-18-2014 09:07 AM

I did retire and now Im busier than when I was working. Wood working, fly fishing, gardening, a huge yard to maintain, greenhouse tomatoes and my trucks. 56 Ford F-100 with a 351, 56 F-100 with a 292, and 56 F-250 with 272 (all in total dismantled stage). Not only time but $flow. People tell me I need to get one running but I enjoy having them to work on too. My 250 is going to be a flatbed. It has duallies front and back (single in front). Im going to put stacks on it and make it a summer daily driver. None of my trucks will ever see mud or snow as long as I have them. I have three kids all in line to get one.

charliemccraney 05-18-2014 01:33 PM

As long as you don't keep acquiring things,you are good.
I have a friend and I've realized he's one of those "I'm going to restore it some day" guys. He's approaching 30 cars and nearly every one needs complete restoration, which I know isn't going to happen. If he started today, finishing 1 a year, he'll be in his 70s before he can enjoy them all. Many of them will have returned to the earth before he gets to them.
It also sounds like you have retired right. I don't understand how people can have nothing to do but sit in front of the tv when they retire. That is not a life that you work 40 or 50 years to acquire.

Outlaw56 05-18-2014 02:20 PM

I just let a 56 Ford F-600 Dump Truck go to the crusher, It liked to have killed me but I have to finish what I have. I am retired and making very good progress on the first one. I actually started with one I have had for years but came across these others that are good practice for the final project. I have learned so much from you guys, much of it has been tried and tested on the two I have put ahead of the final build.


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