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ryceman168 04-18-2014 02:50 PM

Engine identification?
 
I am wondering what engines I have recently acquired. They were in the back of an old shed for years. The tag on one says: 429 69 4
9-D K815-U.
and the other says: 429 70 6
9-K K815-A.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

-mywheels- 04-21-2014 01:10 PM

Are there any numbers by the starter? If so, post those.

ryceman168 04-25-2014 10:55 PM

There are numbers on the back of the block that read: 9Z604674.

-mywheels- 04-26-2014 12:37 AM

Numbers on the side by the starter are the ones I'm talking about.

NumberDummy 04-26-2014 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryceman168 (Post 14273744)
I am wondering what engines I have recently acquired. They were in the back of an old shed for years.

The tag on one says: 429 69 4 9-D K 815 U / and the other says: 429 70 6 9- KK 815 A.

Engine ID tags: K 815 U & KK 815 A = 1973 429 4V

ryceman168 05-17-2014 11:44 AM

The numbers by the starter are C9VE-B.

85e150six4mtod 05-17-2014 02:01 PM

C -1960s
9 - 1969
V - Lincoln
E - Engine.

A 1969 Lincoln casting revision, with the B maybe being another revision. No surprise in a 1973 motor.

Deck height would be a question, as it appears there were several revisions, this possibly being the last for C9.. blocks. See the notes on deck height etc here:

Kelly hotrod - Ford Engines Page 2

Probably just a run of the mill pillow barge smog motor. Perfect for a minor rebuild into a 700 horse mountain motor. Get to work!}>

monsterbaby 05-17-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod (Post 14355597)
C -1960s
9 - 1969
V - Lincoln
E - Engine.

A 1969 Lincoln casting revision, with the B maybe being another revision. No surprise in a 1973 motor.

Deck height would be a question, as it appears there were several revisions, this possibly being the last for C9.. blocks. See the notes on deck height etc here:

Kelly hotrod - Ford Engines Page 2

Probably just a run of the mill pillow barge smog motor. Perfect for a minor rebuild into a 700 horse mountain motor. Get to work!}>

Actually some numbers aren't adding up. A C9VE block would be a huge surprise on a 73 motor. It should have a D1VE block.

And you can't use casting revision numbers to determine where it came from. Just because it has the V for Lincoln does NOT mean it was ever in a Lincoln but rather that the ORIGINAL use of that engine group was for a Lincoln

BUT the ACTUAL decoding on that engine tag indicates it's a 69 429-4V.

85e150six4mtod 05-17-2014 05:21 PM

From the above tag decode:

Engine ID tags: K 815 U & KK 815 A = 1973 429 4V


OP needs to tear them down and inspect if he's going to use them anyway. He'll figure it out.

ryceman168 05-17-2014 11:38 PM

The motor I am referring to is a 1969 Ford 429. Not a 1973. At least that's what the tag attached to it says. I was told it could have been out of a T Bird but that may not be true.

85e150six4mtod 05-18-2014 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=ryceman168;14273744]

429. 69 4
9-D K815-U.

429 70 6
9-K K815-A
"

OK, if I read this correctly, you have a '69 made in April of '69 and a '70 made in October of '69.

I.D. Tag Information -- The Ford V-8 Engine Workshop

AFAIK those would have been 11:1 compression engines, T bird, Galaxie or Mercury land yachts.
Does it have a 4bbl intake and the words "Thunder Jet" on it anywhere?

The Lincoln connection would be that the 429 and 460 blocks are the same, with Lincoln using the 460 at that time.

As I said earlier, since they have been sitting and since you don't know the condition, a tear down would be a good idea. Also, they probably do not have hardened valve seats unless someone did that later, and with 11:1 compression, they will be hard to please gas wise.

ryceman168 05-18-2014 09:45 PM

It has a 2 barrel manifold on it. No thunderjet anywhere.

85e150six4mtod 05-18-2014 11:41 PM

There were Mercury 2bbl 429s, not sure if they found their way into Fords. The Marquis had one as the standard engine. Supposedly the same specs and a "Premium Fuel" engine with the same compression as the 4bbl.

The insurance man would relax if you had a 2bbl, but panic with a 4bbl.

Also, I see 11.3:1 compression referenced for the "Thunder Jet" motor, a figure I recall hearing years ago when these motors were new.

Serving suggestion for that concours restoration you might consider:

1969 Mercury Marauder Monterey Marquis 429 2V Air Cleaner Top Lid Decal Sticker | eBay


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