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jayc3169 04-07-2014 04:49 PM

International doesn't agree with Ford diagnostic, need opinions!
 
So a quick recap:

All winter I've been having cold start issues. I've changed everything you can imagine (Check past threads listed below for details) but nothing helped (not even Rev-X). So I finally took it to the Dealership. They call me back a couple hours ago and said that all 8 injectors were bad and were dropping off, my fuel pressure was reading at 36psi, my water in fuel light was illuminated (Never has before!), and they had to do a manual compression test to see if compression was good. All totaled to $4,361.46. Injectors, I can do myself at a cost of $261.64 each from Ford. So I called International to see if they had them cheaper and when I told them what Ford said, the tech said he had never seen all 8 injectors go bad and that I should not let them change them until other things were ruled out (e.i. Fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump, and something else (I can't remember the name). He also said that they can't work on Fords. I ok'd the dealership to do the compression test on the engine and nothing else. Anyone have any feedback on what I should do? I've called and left a message with the guys at powerstrokehelp in Georgia. I live in Huntsville, Al, does anyone know a trustworthy 6.0 mech here that can diagnose this? I just don't know what to do!


Here are the other threads I've created on the subject:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...ease-help.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...ter-rev-x.html

69cj 04-07-2014 05:10 PM

I can tell you that 36 psi fuel pressure is absolutely no good for your injectors.

Bullitt390 04-07-2014 06:05 PM

Get the truck home, add the blue spring regulator and recheck fuel pressure.

Josh

jayc3169 04-07-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69cj (Post 14240682)
I can tell you that 36 psi fuel pressure is absolutely no good for your injectors.

Could it just be the fuel pump or fuel pressure regulator?

jayc3169 04-07-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt390 (Post 14240843)
Get the truck home, add the blue spring regulator and recheck fuel pressure.

Josh

I am, after doing some reading and what the tech at International said I'm not letting the dealership do a compression test. I've done the bubble test and heard it crank without starting and my compression sounds fine so I'll save my 500 dollars on that. The Tech at international said he would take a look for me but he can't use the diagnostic equipment that International uses because Ford's computer reads differently.

BLADE35 04-07-2014 08:31 PM

I would certainly do as others mentioned and get FUEL Pressure up See how it runs then

If you had low fuel press for a long time then you might need 8 inject But Bring the System to PAR before making any Decision on inject


I would Almost test the Fuel Pressure myself at this Point

jayc3169 04-07-2014 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLADE35 (Post 14241323)
I would certainly do as others mentioned and get FUEL Pressure up See how it runs then

If you had low fuel press for a long time then you might need 8 inject But Bring the System to PAR before making any Decision on inject


I would Almost test the Fuel Pressure myself at this Point

Is there a tool I can get to do that or a parts list to make one?

BLADE35 04-07-2014 08:38 PM

You can go with a Standalone gauge or Manual gauge

Manual gauge needs a Kit for WOT compensator

Sean would be the Go to guy on the Tool

BLADE35 04-07-2014 08:40 PM

BLUE FUEL PRESSURE SPRING INSTALL

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/10...tructions.html

acf6 04-07-2014 08:42 PM

please do not bring it to that powerstroke help idiot

BLADE35 04-07-2014 08:43 PM

theres my pic in that thread Lower left side it the Spot to screw in the FP Tester or Sender

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=75606

jayc3169 04-07-2014 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acf6 (Post 14241371)
please do not bring it to that powerstroke help idiot

Just curious, but why, he seems to know a lot. But looks can be deceiving I guess.

jayc3169 04-07-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLADE35 (Post 14241376)
theres my pic in that thread Lower left side it the Spot to screw in the FP Tester or Sender

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=75606

Thank you, I'm looking them up now.

Runs-wifey 04-07-2014 08:51 PM

We have seen a couple of his truck in person, not impressed at all !!!

Bullitt390 04-07-2014 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayc3169 (Post 14241332)
Is there a tool I can get to do that or a parts list to make one?

There is a fairly good tester at Harbor Freight that will work for a basic test in a pinch and includes the correct adaptor fitting for the regulator housing.

Called an oil pressure tester kit, works just fine for diesel fuel...

Engine Oil Pressure Test Kit

Specs call for 40+ psi at all times, better to see 45+ psi even during WOT.

Blue Spring kit should push PSI well over 55+

Josh


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