Redhead gearbox
Are they really worth the money? 2005 V10 EB.
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Originally Posted by Larry Grimes
(Post 13620893)
Are they really worth the money? 2005 V10 EB.
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Originally Posted by EXv10
(Post 13621094)
I doubt it. It's just another rebuilder but this one advertises. There's no kryptonite parts in it.
They inform me that they can take it in back and reinstall the seal and put a new snap ring on. I asked them why the snap ring fell off and they say the guys probably didn't have it seated right when they rebuilt the box. With that I said no thanks and I am getting a full refund. I ordered a redhead the same day and am excited to get it installed. I know Brent will say that redhead had has its issues as well but I don't think anything as stupid as a snap ring..Just telling my experience.. |
Actually the problem with Christina's was pretty stupid too, there was a pin in the valve that came loose (maybe). It's just humans working on used OEM steering boxes but I am sorry to hear about all the trouble you are going through (I thought only I had luck like that). Would I ever buy a Redhead ? NO!
If a pin came out of your Redhead you would probably buy from Rockauto so; ..........whatever. I doubt if any of them ever get inspected because they are in a case and even if they put them on some kind of machine to test neither of your problems would have shown up right away and who knows exactly what the problem was for sure on both of them anyway ? Maybe they put a weak snap ring in or the wrong size or there was dirt in the snap ring groove. At any rate, they both screwed up and they will continue to screw up. |
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Originally Posted by EXv10
(Post 13621597)
Actually the problem with Christina's was pretty stupid too, there was a pin in the valve that came loose (maybe). It's just humans working on used OEM steering boxes but I am sorry to hear about all the trouble you are going through (I thought only I had luck like that). Would I ever buy a Redhead ? NO!
If a pin came out of your Redhead you would probably buy from Rockauto so; ..........whatever. I doubt if any of them ever get inspected because they are in a case and even if they put them on some kind of machine to test neither of your problems would have shown up right away and who knows exactly what the problem was for sure on both of them anyway ? Maybe they put a weak snap ring in or the wrong size or there was dirt in the snap ring groove. At any rate, they both screwed up and they will continue to screw up. |
I just bought one from Auto Zone. It has been in truck for about two weeks. Out the door with oil $119.94. Much less than redhead but too soon to tell. All is working great right now. But........... Just couldn't see spending the 400 on something I can get for 100. I have been reading these posts here to see what you ex people have been doing and I think I made a good choice. Truck that I put steering gear in is 2001 4x4 v-10 with 97k miles on it. My other truck in my sig is still on it's original box. 230k on it. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by Bigpipes 35
(Post 13622230)
Agreed but I hope I have better luck with the Redhead..:-drink
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Originally Posted by SDV10
(Post 13622416)
I just bought one from Auto Zone. It has been in truck for about two weeks. Out the door with oil $119.94. Much less than redhead but too soon to tell. All is working great right now. But........... Just couldn't see spending the 400 on something I can get for 100. I have been reading these posts here to see what you ex people have been doing and I think I made a good choice. Truck that I put steering gear in is 2001 4x4 v-10 with 97k miles on it. My other truck in my sig is still on it's original box. 230k on it. Go figure.
My PS box has 165k miles on it and it's like new. |
Ive had my ReadHead on for about 2 months now and love the difference it made. Great customer service with super fast shipping.
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I went through the same thing with my Old 7.3 Ex. I installed a cheapo Advance Auto parts unit and I had no issues. I think they are all pretty much the same, My OEM box was at 295,000 miles when I swapped it out.
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Originally Posted by 7.3Excursion4x4
(Post 13622833)
Ive had my ReadHead on for about 2 months now and love the difference it made. Great customer service with super fast shipping.
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Originally Posted by SDV10
(Post 13622416)
I just bought one from Auto Zone. It has been in truck for about two weeks. Out the door with oil $119.94. Much less than redhead but too soon to tell. All is working great right now. But........... Just couldn't see spending the 400 on something I can get for 100. I have been reading these posts here to see what you ex people have been doing and I think I made a good choice. Truck that I put steering gear in is 2001 4x4 v-10 with 97k miles on it. My other truck in my sig is still on it's original box. 230k on it. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by Bigpipes 35
(Post 13623046)
I am probably one of the few that are in the boat of having run a cheap box for a couple days and then putting in the redhead. I will say the cheaper box was not all that impressive as far as steering feel, It wasn't much different than my stock box ( kinda mushy feeling ) I will be interested to see how the readhead feels once I get it installed,,
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9/25/13 was new install. Just looked it up. I love being able to drive without white knuckles again. I was driving like in the old movies, back and forth. I will let you all know.
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What's the symptoms of a bad steering box? Ours wanders bad I thought maybe we needed to get the front end aligned as the guy I bought it from did not after ball joints.
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Originally Posted by fordboy2
(Post 13627131)
What's the symptoms of a bad steering box? Ours wanders bad I thought maybe we needed to get the front end aligned as the guy I bought it from did not after ball joints.
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Originally Posted by EXv10
(Post 13621094)
I doubt it. It's just another rebuilder but this one advertises. There's no kryptonite parts in it.
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Originally Posted by LivingLarge
(Post 13628699)
Hey Brent , congrats! I've heard that Red Head has offered to bring you out of retirement and offered you a spokesman job for them...:-missingt
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Thomas Edison didn't like alternating current either. And now a/c is the standard.
I like my redhead a LOT. Sent from my Sprint PC36100 using IB AutoGroup |
Originally Posted by Bigpipes 35
(Post 13628713)
Why does Brent not like the Redhead boxes ?? I didn't know that..}>
Also; Edison wasn't a mechanic, he was an electrical genius and greatly improved the light bulb. |
While I like the thought of a redhead if/when I replace my box...I can't justify the $$$. Parts store is 3-4 miles away and the "OEM" replacement is cheap.
Originally Posted by Misky6.0
(Post 13628747)
Thomas Edison didn't like alternating current either. And now a/c is the standard.
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Originally Posted by LivingLarge
(Post 13628699)
Hey Brent , congrats! I've heard that Red Head has offered to bring you out of retirement and offered you a spokesman job for them...:-missingt
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I am getting parts around for doing a gear box replacement. Is Redhead still the best choice or are there better alternatives? I also run 37" tires in the summer so it has to be built beefy.
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I wouldn't be able to claim any "best" data, but RedHead and Motorcraft are about the same cost. I only have 2000 miles on my RedHead box - so far excellent.
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Some of you guys REALLY make me wonder sometimes. Those that say they wouldn't "waste" the money, have you ever used a Redhead? They are a local company up here in Washington and are great people and will work with you to get you the best performance for your buck. I would absolutely use Redhead for my needs all day every day.
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Had mine for a couple years; been happy with it. Group buy made the price reasonable. Installed it along with new hoses and a new cheapo ps pump which needed to be replaced. Reinstalled Ford ps pump and took off one of the dampers; been happily steering ever since.
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I put a RedHead in last summer and it really tightened things up. It was the last piece of the puzzle after replacing pretty much the entire front end. Excursion is my first used truck and I couldn't deal with the sloppy feel in the steering wheel.
As far as a waste of money; thats subjective. Personally for me, anytime I've gone the cheaper alternative with vehicle parts it seems to cost me money in the long run. Because of that I don't screw around with trying the bargain basement part. If I wanted to be cheap I would have bought a Dodge. |
I guess i should've updated a long time ago. I suck as a fellow human being. :-X19 With the punishment and full confession out of the way, Auto zone gearbox is doing good a year+ later. I'm thinking about slightly tightening the box adjustment due to this summer my wife told others on a camping trip that she would drive on the ladies outing that day but they needed to know she would 'steer alot'. Not sure why she said that but i am assuming my truck steers a little different then her 1996 mitsubishi mirage. }> I did notice over the last couple weeks the feeling of wander again but not sure if it's not just in my head. Tighten a small amount should tell me and it is super easy to do.
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I bought a redhead box for my Bronco a few years ago and it really made a huge difference in steering over the stock box with 140k on it. I can't compare it to a cheap POS from the Chinese auto parts store, but then again I don't put parts like that my on my truck. When my Ex needs a new box, I promise you it's getting a redhead.
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I put a RedHead on the truck in my avatar. 6" lift and 35" tires. Used it in the oil fields in North Dakota. I couldn't tell any real difference in the change from OEM to RedHead as opposed to the auto parts store box I put in my Excursion.
I do not think I would spring for a RedHead again. |
Yep mine was a bad pin in the valve, it leaked and didn't have the correct pressures which causes additional play- not sure if that valve issue it was took out my PS pump a few weeks later. I took them a video of the issue and the warrantied the box. I hate the PS pump and the labor to do it twice.
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The steering box in My 05' was replaced by Ford in 08' with just 28,000 miles on it(leaking). They also replaced the pump that they said was damaged by the steering box. 70,000 miles later the Ex still drives like new.
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Originally Posted by sammie0126
(Post 14891968)
Yep mine was a bad pin in the valve, it leaked and didn't have the correct pressures which causes additional play- not sure if that valve issue it was took out my PS pump a few weeks later. I took them a video of the issue and the warrantied the box. I hate the PS pump and the labor to do it twice.
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Originally Posted by EXv10
(Post 14892963)
Did you have to pay for shipping too?
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how much is one from ford compared to a rebuilt from redhead?
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Originally Posted by Skip1970
(Post 14893763)
how much is one from ford compared to a rebuilt from redhead?
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i posted on the first page what i paid at auto zone. Lifetime warranty.
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im just saying i hear lots of problems with redhead and ive not had a single problem with oem so i might go with a ford one. in the past you used to be able to get options at for like new or rebuilt. and new might be a good choice seeing as how well the original is lasting.
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Looks like OEM Ford Parts has the same pump for my truck for around 350. I agree that oem would make me feel more comfortable.
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