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slashfan7964 10-15-2013 05:12 PM

Looking good man. Makes me want to restore mine back to the way it used to be so much more.

Piston Honda 10-16-2013 02:13 PM

OOPS....... I accidentally mixed the paint wrong! I doubled the reducer and hardener. :-banghead

I called the co. that makes the paint and the rep said that the drying time will definetly be affected, and the paint "might" become brittle over time. Hopefully it's a lot of time. :-X16

Piston Honda 11-19-2013 01:56 PM

Update time!

The paint seems to be fine. I've done a little here and there, but progress has been slow.

I've started to run the brake lines and fuel lines, but I'm having some trouble with the pre bent fuel lines and vent lines, so I put that on hold to think about how they go.
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These are the 3/8" SS fuel lines that I can't figure out
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And these are the vent lines. Same two lines in each pic just different pics
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The original dust shields are discontinued for the 85 f250 and for the 89 f350 (which is the truck I got the front axle from) so I ordered some that are for a 94-97 f350 I think. The part #'s ordered are F5TZ-2K005-A and F5TZ-2K005-B. Turns out they are both driver side shields, but are slightly different

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By looking at what's left of the original shield the top one in the pic is the closest match, but I'll still have to modify it a little to get it to work with the Kingpin caliper bracket and I have to find out what the part# is for the passenger side that matches the F5TZ-2K005-A. Does anyone know this part#? Another thing I'm not sure about is where the shield is supposed to go.

I don't know if it goes: dust shield, caliper bracket, spindle or if it goes: caliper bracket, dust shield, spindle

The knuckle and caliper bracket is cast into a single piece on the old TTB so here are some pics to get a better idea of what I'm talking about if people are not familiar with the dana 60
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I know this would probably be answered in 87-96 forum but I've posted questions there and don't seem to get many responses.

The engine was going together while I waited for the dust shields to come so I can keep going on the front end. I haven't done anything internal to the motor but new parts include Edelbrock timing chain set, Edelbrock performer intake, Bosch water pump, ARP bolt set, and freeze plugs. The valve covers have been tightened to much by someone and don't sit flat on the heads, I really don't want to put too much money into the motor because in a few years I might take it out and put a crate motor in and am not sure which motor that will be so I'm going to try and tap the dimples out.
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The plan for the transfer case was to wire wheel and polish it up. It was going good then I used a marine aluminum cleaner to get in the crevices and it ruined the look of it. It was extremely hard to get the shine back so I ended up priming and painting it aluminum color. These pics are the TC before I used the cleaner
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This is it after painting

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Piston Honda 11-19-2013 02:33 PM

In reference to the fuel and vent lines they were bought through LMC and the truck is a single tank

Gary Lewis 11-19-2013 10:52 PM

PH - Looks good! Hope you get the fuel lines sorted, soon. And let us know as I plan to use those as well.

As for the TC, I think it looks better with the paint. Good job.

Piston Honda 01-16-2014 01:30 PM

I took some time off and went on vacation for a few weeks, but now I'm back! Ive put the motor and trans in and now I'm working on putting the harmonic balancer on. I picked up a harmonic balancer installer and I'm having trouble with it. The opening of the balancer is 2" deep and when I thread the tool into the crank and put the pressure bearing and large nut on the tool the nut is to far in to get a wrench on it.


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I would say I could use a stack of washers but I don't feel like buying them. Does anyone have an idea of something else that would work.

f150xltlarait 01-17-2014 08:27 AM

i just put the balancer bolt in and tightin it up goes on every time

Sac79 01-17-2014 11:13 AM

Great build thread. I only joined the forum after your last post, so this is a new find for me. Great attention to detail, it's going to be one of those brand new 'old' trucks that I've seen on here. Your thread has made me reconsider doing the frame myself, it was my intention, but the guy I'm looking at for a paintjob, said $500 for the frame. Sounds like you have about half that in yours? And please keep posting updates!

Oh, and sorry, can't give advice on the balancer being a complete novice myself!

Luke76 01-17-2014 12:28 PM

You could try a different balancer installer - the one I use has a "plate" or flange that would have covered your recessed hole completely so that both nuts remained outside where you could reach them. It is an .

On the other hand, using the crank bolt also works like Lariat just mentioned. You just have to keep the pistons from moving. If the oil pan hasn't been sealed you can drop it and stick a big screwdriver between one of the crank counterbalances and the block. Or if you did already seal it, thread some rope down the spark plug hole of one of your pistons until you fill the cylinder. As you tighten the bolt the engine will want to turn but the rope will prevent the cylinder from going up.

FordFETruck 01-17-2014 01:00 PM

The couple times I've had mine on and off I've just used the bolt for re installation. My engine is tight enough that I can seat it fully without the engine really turning, then I just use the impact to tighten it up.

rowdyredneck 01-19-2014 04:14 PM

I've had the same issue with using the installer tool on small block Fords. My solution: spacers. Screw the nut back almost to the outer end of the tool and install some kind of spacer between the bearing and balancer itself. This will place the large nut on the tool out toward the end farther so you can use a wrench on it. I use two large nuts stacked on top of each other for spacers but even a short piece of pipe would work. I don't like using the crank bolt to pull them on, I stripped the threads doing that once.

FordFETruck 01-19-2014 06:07 PM

Don't know how someone could strip the threads on the bolt doing it the way I did it. Mine always goes on pretty easy, I use some sort of thin lubricant when pressing it on.

rowdyredneck 01-19-2014 07:06 PM

That happened to be on a small block Chevy which uses 7/16" threads in the crank snout, much smaller than Fords. Its possible someone else mangled the threads before, but when I tried pulling the balancer on with the crank bolt it pulled the threads right out of the crank. One of the main reasons I decided to buy the installation tool, never had any problems since.

Piston Honda 01-21-2014 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by f150xltlarait (Post 13964513)
i just put the balancer bolt in and tightin it up goes on every time

I didn't try this initially because I had heard you could strip the threads in the crank. I'd say the threads would have to be pretty far gone, but knowing my luck it would happen.


Originally Posted by Luke76 (Post 13965242)
You could try a different balancer installer - the one I use has a "plate" or flange that would have covered your recessed hole completely so that both nuts remained outside where you could reach them. It is an OTC 4531.

On the other hand, using the crank bolt also works like Lariat just mentioned. You just have to keep the pistons from moving. If the oil pan hasn't been sealed you can drop it and stick a big screwdriver between one of the crank counterbalances and the block. Or if you did already seal it, thread some rope down the spark plug hole of one of your pistons until you fill the cylinder. As you tighten the bolt the engine will want to turn but the rope will prevent the cylinder from going up.

I know that installer is on amazon but did you borrow one from an auto part store or did you buy one?

Piston Honda 01-21-2014 12:50 PM

Some more pics

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