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1972RedNeck 07-23-2013 09:42 PM

The Clark Swap...Has Begun
 
I just picked up a 285V Clark out of a '76 F600.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ctureid=134875

I was originally going to get a 282 but I liked this shift pattern better.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ctureid=134876

The plan is to stick it behind the 416 in my '66 highboy so I can run 3.54's and still have a low(ish) first gear and close up the big 3 - 4 shift all in one shot.

To get the slowest speed slower I will be swapping a NP205 in.

The stock FE powered slick highboy bellhousing is on the left, the '76 F600 bellhousing is on the right. They are the exact same depth.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ctureid=134877

The top two bolt holes in the highboy bellhousing fit the top Clark holes. The bottom ones aren't even close.

The plan is to "beef" up the bell housing where the two holes need to be and then drill & tap the holes.

Here is the tag. Anyone know what all the numbers mean?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ctureid=134874

The only problem I have ran into so far is sourcing an 11" clutch disc with an 1 3/8" 10 spline hub. Any ideas on where to find one?

Mattrod68 07-23-2013 10:24 PM

http://www.summitracing.com/search/d...r-in/11-000-in

will any of these work?

C G B 07-24-2013 08:21 AM

Very cool man. Keep us posted.

1972RedNeck 07-24-2013 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mattrod68 (Post 13367636)

I hate it when I make things harder than they are. I've called 3 shops to no avail.

TA455HO 07-24-2013 07:10 PM

If you rebuild an NP205 yourself I could recommend a
KENT MOORE TOOL J-23429 INSTALLER

Or equivalent. Trying to get the idler shaft driven in while keeping all the shims lined up is otherwise a maddening experience. Don't ask me how I know...

rogue40 07-24-2013 07:57 PM

Just curious but why do you want to use the FE bellhousing? The Clark looks like it has the FE/FT block pattern, from my seat anyway.

D3TA is a Ford casting so I'm guessing 7004-EA is Fords specific part number.

1972RedNeck 07-24-2013 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by TA455HO (Post 13370758)
If you rebuild an NP205 yourself I could recommend a
KENT MOORE TOOL J-23429 INSTALLER

Or equivalent. Trying to get the idler shaft driven in while keeping all the shims lined up is otherwise a maddening experience. Don't ask me how I know...

I didn't know they had a tool. I've rebuilt two 205's without them, and that would sure be nice.

1972RedNeck 07-24-2013 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by rogue40 (Post 13370920)
Just curious but why do you want to use the FE bellhousing? The Clark looks like it has the FE/FT block pattern, from my seat anyway.

If you look at the picture, it *appears* that the ears are at a different angle. That's what I thought until 20 minutes ago when I bolted the two back to back.

Now that I know that the ears are the same, I am using the F600 bellhousing.

TA455HO 07-24-2013 10:04 PM

I wonder if the output shaft on the NP435 would work on the Clark. That's the only difference I notice. Awesome that the bellhousing would work. It sounds like you'll have a winner there.

1972RedNeck 07-25-2013 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck (Post 13370974)

Originally Posted by rogue40 (Post 13370920)
Just curious but why do you want to use the FE bellhousing? The Clark looks like it has the FE/FT block pattern, from my seat anyway.

If you look at the picture, it *appears* that the ears are at a different angle. That's what I thought until 20 minutes ago when I bolted the two back to back.

Now that I know that the ears are the same, I am using the F600 bellhousing.

Changed my mind again. The F600 bell housing holds the starter out from the fly wheel farther to allow for a bigger one (flywheel).

I plan on "cold" welding two pieces of 1/2" plate on the inside of the highboy bellhousing for the new holes to go through. Hopefully I can do it without cracking it.

1972RedNeck 07-25-2013 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by TA455HO (Post 13371432)
I wonder if the output shaft on the NP435 would work on the Clark. That's the only difference I notice. Awesome that the bellhousing would work. It sounds like you'll have a winner there.

No it won't.:( $189 gets me into a 1350 yoke.

rogue40 07-25-2013 04:12 PM

How does the Clark compare, weight and size wise, to the NP?

1972RedNeck 07-26-2013 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by rogue40 (Post 13373429)
How does the Clark compare, weight and size wise, to the NP?

It's bigger and heavier. That's about all I know.

Here's some more crappy pics. I got the plates in without cracking the housing and the holes tapped.



https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ctureid=135047

1972RedNeck 07-27-2013 09:08 PM

Does anybody know if the hole for the pilot bushing in a 361 is the same diameter as our FE's?

1972RedNeck 07-28-2013 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck (Post 13379672)
Does anybody know if the hole for the pilot bushing in a 361 is the same diameter as our FE's?

Anybody???


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