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Ford-Trucks Editors 06-19-2012 07:19 PM

Ford Releases Special Service Vehicle F-150
 
Read about it here: Ford Releases Special Service Vehicle F-150

The trucks include an upsized alternator for increased electrical loads. They'll also have vinyl seats for easy cleaning. In a couple of years, these'll be trucks to look out for when they go to auction.

kd0axs 06-19-2012 08:21 PM

I don't think the "Special Service Vehicle" is the same as the Interceptor as in the Taurus and Explorer, so I don't think these would actually be used for patrol vehicles. However, they will be great for things like Community Service Officers, Park Patrol, Fire Chiefs, Commercial Vehicle Inspectors, etc, many of which already use F-150s.

loydmeeks 06-20-2012 12:53 AM

We have Highway patrol driving F250's with a shell camper, Sheriff driving F150's. Getting hard to know till you pass or meet them as all lights are hidden.

tseekins 06-20-2012 06:38 AM

Ford is constantly playing catch-up in this arena. Here in Hampton, Va, there are a few 1500 Silverado trucks on the Police Force. They are used by cadets and regulars in all facets of police duty.

One thing to think about though: Will the larger alternator eventually make it's way into mainstream F-150's and enable them to offer a snowplow prep package?

meborder 06-20-2012 07:23 AM

wonder if that push bar will be available ....

that's probably the only full height grill guard i've seen that i actually like.

BillyBob69 06-20-2012 09:27 AM

They are used quite a bit here in Colorado. And pretty good performance too. The 4 doors give you the versatility of a car & truck in one. Great vehicles.

Tom 06-20-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tseekins (Post 11972696)
One thing to think about though: Will the larger alternator eventually make it's way into mainstream F-150's and enable them to offer a snowplow prep package?

Pretty confident that the alternator capacity has nothing to do with the fact that there is no snow plow prep option. I think that the only trucks that can be rated to carry a small plow are the HD trucks, and those are restricted to light plows for personal use only.

I don't think the front suspension was ever designed to handle the abuse of carrying a plow. That, IMHO, is the week link here.

tseekins 06-20-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 11973839)
Pretty confident that the alternator capacity has nothing to do with the fact that there is no snow plow prep option. I think that the only trucks that can be rated to carry a small plow are the HD trucks, and those are restricted to light plows for personal use only.

I don't think the front suspension was ever designed to handle the abuse of carrying a plow. That, IMHO, is the week link here.


Non of the F-150's are snow plow rated, HD or not. The reason Ford gives is because the electric power assist steering (EPAS) draws so much juice that the electrical system can't handle the load of the electric snow plow motors.

The only F-150's that don't have EPAS are the 6.2L trucks and they are not rated for plow prep packages either but it has little or nothing to do with the front suspension.

I don't advocate plowing with a half ton truck but if the power is there to operate the plow motor what excuse will Ford come up with next?

Tom 06-20-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tseekins (Post 11974819)
Non of the F-150's are snow plow rated, HD or not. The reason Ford gives is because the electric power assist steering (EPAS) draws so much juice that the electrical system can't handle the load of the electric snow plow motors.

Huh...that's an interesting change. The previous generation ('04-'08) had something in the manual that the HD models could hang a light plow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tseekins
The only F-150's that don't have EPAS are the 6.2L trucks and they are not rated for plow prep packages either but it has little or nothing to do with the front suspension.

I don't agree. It has EVERYTHING to do with the front suspension IMHO. Looking through the chart on www.fleet.ford.com, the maximum front GAWR available is 4,050 lbs. The base curb weight permits ~5-700 lbs extra on the front axle before going over GAWR. Even a light plow, accounting for the weight levered off the rear axle, would place the front end over GAWR without even the weight of a skinny driver.

With the exception of the HD models the max payload is typically less than 1,500 lbs, with some exceptions. Add a driver, plow, and counterweight in the bed and you'd be over GVWR easily. There's a reason that no half ton truck on the market is rated for a snow plow. And it ain't the alternator. :-hair

tseekins 06-20-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 11974875)
Huh...that's an interesting change. The previous generation ('04-'08) had something in the manual that the HD models could hang a light plow.



I don't agree. It has EVERYTHING to do with the front suspension IMHO. Looking through the chart on www.fleet.ford.com, the maximum front GAWR available is 4,050 lbs. The base curb weight permits ~5-700 lbs extra on the front axle before going over GAWR. Even a light plow, accounting for the weight levered off the rear axle, would place the front end over GAWR without even the weight of a skinny driver.

With the exception of the HD models the max payload is typically less than 1,500 lbs, with some exceptions. Add a driver, plow, and counterweight in the bed and you'd be over GVWR easily. There's a reason that no half ton truck on the market is rated for a snow plow. And it ain't the alternator. :-hair



I'm not going to argue with you about this Tom. The 1500 GM twins DO have a snow plow prep package. Check it out and see. It's my understanding that after the next redesign the plow prep package may be history for them as well. BUT for now, they offer it.

The owner's manual on my 2011 F-150 simply states that the electrical system will not handle the load of a plow. It says nothing about the suspension components. Light weight plows can be had and are significantly lighter than the old steel blades.

Anyway, I derailed this and I apologize to the OP.

BIGKEN 06-20-2012 06:46 PM

Tim is correct...plows are not allowed due to issues with the EPAS.

In Massachusetts Environmental Police use pick up trucks extensively...as well as State Police Truck Teams.

Tom 06-20-2012 07:41 PM

Sorry for the derail Tim. I loves me a good debate and I haven't had one in awhile. :-X16

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGKEN (Post 11975032)
In Massachusetts Environmental Police use pick up trucks extensively...as well as State Police Truck Teams.

I think you see them frequently, particularly in the northern US. When I was stationed at Fort Drum the local county sheriff had a half-ton truck or two, and the local law enforcement up here uses them as well. With the commonality of AWD crossovers that get great fuel economy, like the Explorer PI, I'm not sure how long this will continue for. I do know that my Fusion won't outrun an EB F150!

Wiggums 06-20-2012 09:38 PM

The Ford Lobo in Mexico (or a four-door F150) are used as police vehicles in Tijuana. It looks very plain and the wheels are also very plain. I found some in Flickr...

Municipal Police Lobo in Tijuana

Federal Police Lobo in Tijuana

BIGKEN 06-21-2012 04:42 PM

On another note...I found out today that a plow package will be available in 2013. See seperate thread for more details.

tseekins 06-21-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGKEN (Post 11978712)
On another note...I found out today that a plow package will be available in 2013. See seperate thread for more details.


Thanks for posting Ken! Looks like I had a crystal ball. :)


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