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ChunderDownUnder 08-26-2011 01:36 AM

4R100 PTO or Non PTO
 
Josh (theenforcer) and myself are getting John Woods to bulid us a transmission. Its turned out that both of us have the PTO version of the 4R100. Maybe they dumped all the left over PTO trannies on the Australian market cause they are rare in the U.S. When ya get a chance have a look on the passenger side of ya box and let us know what ya got.
You are looking for this plate towards the front

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m194/aus001/PTO.jpg

SSSimon 08-26-2011 03:43 AM

If you have a PTO 4R100, what can you do with it.

It's a bit of a funny place to have a PTO isn't it? I know the old Landrovers used to have one poking out the front that could be used for winching.

ChunderDownUnder 08-26-2011 04:46 AM

pto can run an oil pump so you can hook any type of hydraulic system you wish. In my case it increases the cost of the JW tranny, Cause like I said they are rare in the U.S so now he has to source a pto case. They have a different gear set and sensors so a standard 4R100 wont do. I was just curious as to what you guys have. It seems a bit coincidental that the two of us have the PTO version.

SSSimon 08-26-2011 05:10 AM

Right, that makes sense. Hey if you get a hydraulic pump on your PTO you could run a hydraulic powered capstan winch on the front bumper. It'd be stronger and more durable than having an oversized starter motor powered winch.
They'd probably be a demand for JW PTO transmissions in the states, can't he just exchange your PTO trans for a rebuilt non-PTO one?

The PTO option must have been used for the US guys if they ran the snowplow set up, the hydraulic pump on the PTO would allow the plow blade to be manipulated.

I would also bet that the stock PTO trans is tractor strong - stronger than the non-PTO trans. Maybe the PTO trans is the basis for the Ford HD trans?!

I'll check mine to see if it's 3 out of 3! And don't say passenger-side, it's LHS!

Yes, 3 out of 3 - mine's got the same blanking off plate as shown in your photo!

Nkelly 08-26-2011 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by ChunderDownUnder (Post 10739403)
When ya get a chance have a look on the side of ya box and let us know what ya got.

Well i had a look and all i found was a freckle on the inside of that thigh ????
http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/y...ssingteeth.gif

http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/y...Cat_Attack.gif
Fekkkin *****'s,they'll jump on you from nowhere.

http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/sign0024.gif

ChunderDownUnder 08-26-2011 06:53 AM

Nah the non PTO and the PTO are not interchangeable. The PTO has a different gear set and sensors. Our PCM wont read a non PTO trans. No wonder they are rare in the States. We have em all.


You find it down there Bryan. Check the other box.

BigF350 08-26-2011 11:35 AM

All Aus effies had the PTO transmission.
Both the transmissions and the 5.4l V8's were all built ~2000 and stored in an climate controlled warehouse in Brazil and pulled out as production needed them.

Nkelly 08-26-2011 05:55 PM

Why climate control.

ChunderDownUnder 08-26-2011 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Nkelly (Post 10742012)
Why climate control.

rust prevention I would assume

BigF350 08-26-2011 07:45 PM

What Brian said.

We learnt quite a bit when we stockpiled the 5.0l wheezers in Aus for the AU Falcon's after the engine finished production in the states in 98 (I think), and we were still putting them in cars till 2002. A lot of them got rust (or other damage to seals etc.).
As a result of things like excessive oil consumption from rust on cylinder walls in some of the earlier engines that were put in storage, they had to do a full engine inspection (and possibly rebuild!) prior to install in the AU MkIII's.

Safe to say, we didn't want to repeat that mistake :)
The 7.3l (and 4.2l) was built to order tho by Navistar Brazil.

ChunderDownUnder 08-26-2011 08:12 PM

Hey Adrian. You seem to be in the loop. Have you heard any whispers about Ford importing the F trucks to AUS again. ??? The way the dollar is going and will continue to go I would expect it may be a viable proposition.

Nkelly 08-27-2011 03:46 AM

Ahhhhh gotcha over.:-X22

ChunderDownUnder 08-27-2011 04:00 AM

so what do you have Bryan, PTO or non PTO??????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????

Nkelly 08-27-2011 04:02 AM

I got a PTO (please turn over) trans,grouse i'll be able to run a invention off it :D

SSSimon 08-28-2011 06:24 AM

How about inventing me a height adjustable suspension system which runs off the PTO?
The I wont have to stuff around with all that airbag stuff!

Failing that, an in-cab height adjustable tow hitch.


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