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Ford-Trucks Editors 08-10-2011 02:03 PM

Fords Marketing Chief tells off GM
 
Check out today's homepage article about Jim Farley's big words for Government Motors. So what do you think? Is Jim Farley a guy you'd like to have working for you? Or should a marketing man play it a little closer to the vest?

Lazy K 08-10-2011 04:41 PM

Perhaps he`s a little upset that Ford has to pay commercial rates on borrowed money while GM has access to unlimited funds.
I like plain speaking so he could work for me any time. I doubt, though, that I could afford him.

khadma 08-10-2011 04:49 PM

This is WHY is buy from the Ford family of autos!

I operate by the same means in my business sense.

Screw the other guys, I am pretty sure Henry Ford thought

along the same lines too.

tseekins 08-10-2011 08:55 PM

I think his work ethic and business prowess would make him an asset to any company. But, you can't say what ever you want especially if you have to apologize for your mouth. I've been there and done that in the military and it's a little disheartening sometimes.

But I agree with him 100%!

nlareau 08-12-2011 12:05 PM

I'd hire the guy in a second. He wants a competitive market and let the best product win. We need millions more with this attitude.

navct 08-12-2011 12:42 PM

let the games begin a"again"
 
Go Jim, I just hope your apology was a PC thing. I believe Ford can now move far ahead of the pack.
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billt28 08-12-2011 07:41 PM

I've always been a believer in FORD, and when they decided to rough it with the economy, instead of take the bailout from the government, I think they moved way ahead of government motors. As far as what Mr. Farley said about GM, I agree 100%.

Sand_Man 08-12-2011 11:21 PM

It's about time we see an exec with some brass ones. The only thing I see wrong is apologizing for the remarks...

Greywolf 08-13-2011 03:09 AM

If he's Republican - let's get that SUMMITCH in the White House

tseekins 08-13-2011 06:31 AM

One thing Ford needs to be cautious of is arrogance. Their own arrogance has hurt them in the past and they can't rest on their laurels today.

Look at GM's and Chrysler's overall sales. GM is still outselling Ford overall and and Chrysler is showing the most improved sales percentages in the industry. And, Ford is still doing very very well.

This all means that the majority of the buyers aren't as concerned about things like bailouts, TARP funds and Ford's refusal to accept these handouts as the Ford loyalists are.

I am a die hard Ford loyalist, I've bought two new ones in the past 12 months. However, I want to see Ford continue it's success so my family and I can enjoy these marvelous vehicles far into the future.

I just hope that Mr. Farley speaks for himself and not for the company as a whole.

jimandmandy 08-14-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sand_Man (Post 10691180)
It's about time we see an exec with some brass ones. The only thing I see wrong is apologizing for the remarks...

Do you remember "Maximum" Bob Lutz? One of the things he said was "Global warming is a crock of ..."

Marine fighter pilot, worked at GM, BMW, Ford, then at Chrysler where he pushed for the Viper and new Hemi, then back at GM before the bankruptcy, he has some brass ones also.

He just released a book titled Car Guys vs. Bean Counters: The Battle for the Soul of American Business.

Sand_Man 08-14-2011 11:09 AM

Indeed I do. Lutz had a killer looking '33 Ford roadster built and few years later (like less than 3 years) out comes the Foose-inspired "Prowler" that looked nearly identical. Now I ask you, what other car company had the nerve to build the Prowler? I loved the thing, although it could've maybe used some performance. This country needs men (and women) with the vision for tomorrow and the ablilty and work ethic to do it. While I agree with tseekins that arrogance can bite you, it sounds as though this guy is planning on doing it the old fashioned way, through hard work. Like the old saying goes, "...it ain't bragging if you can back it up..."

JWA 09-13-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tseekins (Post 10682877)
I think his work ethic and business prowess would make him an asset to any company. But, you can't say what ever you want especially if you have to apologize for your mouth. I've been there and done that in the military and it's a little disheartening sometimes.

But I agree with him 100%!

His "F___ GM!" was a bit over the top, a well placed "ta Hell with GM..." would have been a little more print-friendly BUT at least his passion is showing. Frankly we've become an entire country of sissified dandy's where "passion" is often confused with anger. Would Roger Smith, Lee Iacocca or one of the Ford's not been equally passonate? And by the way we need another Carrol Shelby or someone just as Maverick-y to really heat these new car wars up to a great level.

We need more passionate leaders even if its only in business to try restoring the "Made in the USA" label more common than it has been lately. Perhaps if we bought more domestic products the bailouts wouldn't have been necessary? (I doubt it but its a nice thing to think..........)

Heck give 'em hell Jim!!

gutsit 09-13-2011 05:41 PM

Hooooray for Jim Farley but have him make it right with the 2004-2007 F-150 owners with the 5.4 engines and high cost plug replacements.

trinogt 09-13-2011 09:23 PM

I feel the same way as Farley
 
Why mince words when asked your opinion? I hate GM too, and everything it stands for. I will NEVER understand why anybody would buy one, especially after all the bailout craziness. I think their cars are among the ugliest on the planet, and having vehicles with 4 or 5 engine choices for the same car? Cars with a couple tenths difference in liter displacement with same number of cylinders??? No wonder they went broke! Where's the Cavalier? Cobalt? Oh yeah, they just change names when it doesn't sell.

I am just getting warmed up. Don't get me started! lol
Sorry if I offended anyone that may have a gm or two, but I will never change my opinion. Ford, yes, you may hire me to work in your design approval division, or just to keep morale up at the plant!


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