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Tatum81 06-24-2013 07:22 PM

I have 5 lugs, seem to be about an 8 inch pattern.

DragonPen999 06-24-2013 10:20 PM

Nevermind, I'm an idiot that just made a $1000 mistake. Oh well least I can scrap it for a few bucks.

85e150 06-25-2013 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by Tatum81 (Post 13283045)
I have 5 lugs, seem to be about an 8 inch pattern.

You missed a set by a year:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...8-pattern.html

Dodge motor homes had that pattern--5 on 8". They are 19.5 tubeless, which ends up with a little shorter tire than you probably have.

9R x 22.5s will work, but finding 5 on 8" 22.5 wheels is probably impossible.

5 on 8" split ring wheels with tube tires would be better than the Firestone wheels.

You mention "Budd" wheels. Budd is a wheel maker, and afaik, did not make the "widow maker" type wheel. HOWEVER, the widow maker Firestone wheels are the "Budd" type wheel, vs. the "Dayton" type wheel which is very different. Scroll down here for a brief explanation and pic:

what are budd wheels? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Do your rims have a split locking ring around the outside of the front wheel and the insides of the duals? Or is there a separation inside the wheel?

Ford two piece rims

Look at the video in post #4 here. My dad had a GMC 6x6 with these wheels, and he had the big ax-looking hammer to unseat the bead. What fun to change tires on that POS. (at least he bought a 1" impact for the lugs--finally)
Looking for the specific difference between "Split Rings" and "Split Rims/Widowmaker"

Tatum81 06-25-2013 01:36 AM

Thanks for the thread references. My wheels don't have a split ring around the outer, they are a two piece rim that separate in the middle. Do you know any more about which years the dodge motor homes had my bolt pattern? Just so I can narrow my search. I appreciate all the info being shared.

85e150 06-25-2013 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by Tatum81 (Post 13284078)
Thanks for the thread references. My wheels don't have a split ring around the outer, they are a two piece rim that separate in the middle. Do you know any more about which years the dodge motor homes had my bolt pattern? Just so I can narrow my search. I appreciate all the info being shared.

I'm thinking 1970s....

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Tatum81 06-25-2013 02:03 AM

Thanks, I am using every angle I can to track down a set of "safe" wheels. I am really hoping to stick with something near the same size and not have to change the axles.

Tatum81 06-25-2013 08:24 PM

If anyone is looking, there are two sets of 22.5 F600 rims on e bay right now... 6 lug, not 5. Maybe they are right for somebody.

Asparky112 06-28-2013 12:33 PM

Hi I posted in another thread for a VIN decode but then saw this here so thought I maybe should post it here... 74 Ford F700 Gas dump 5/2 running gear from the ad so here is the Vin>>> VIN# F70EVU48354... Just wanting to know how easy engine parts are to get... Thus the reason for the decode..

Thanks

RON

72rustwarrior 07-03-2013 06:27 AM

HI NUmberDummy,
Can you tell me how the consecutive numbers are organized for the production runs and DSO options. MY Econoline has a VIN ending in "Q02422" Which looks to be the last of 1972's production it also has a special order DSO number of "1277" after the District code. (which I believe is the 1277th vehicle with Special Order Parts) Do those numbers refer to only the Econolines? the model within the Econolines? Or the whole production line in 1972? Any insight into how these codes were derived would be great. Can you look-up a model using the DSO code to find what it shipped with originally?
Thanks

NumberDummy 07-09-2013 01:29 AM

Serial number (last 6 digits of VIN) apply to all series of 1948 and later trucks, 1961 and later Econolines, 1966 and later Bronco's.

6 digit DSO: First 2 decode to specific Ford District Sales Office that the dealer ordered the vehicle from.

Last 6 is the Domestic Special Order number. 1277 is related to your Econoline, but 1276 and 1278 could be any truck, Bronco, Econoline or a Passenger Car.

1972 serial number range: M40,001-Q00,000 / 1973 serial number range: Q00,001-S60,000.

Beginning 1970: Production date printed on the upper left corner of the Safety Standard Certification Label, glued to the B pillar below striker plate.

I have no way to get info for a Domestic Special Order, but you can get the info for a fee from martiauto.com

Late 1980's: FoMoCo was planning to THROW AWAY all the 1967/79 records. Kevin Marti, a Mustang/Shelby 'nut' in Phoenix AZ found out...and got ALL OF IT!

72rustwarrior 07-09-2013 07:26 AM

Thanks, I knew you would know this answer. I was wondering about the Marti report and if it was any good...

72rustwarrior 07-09-2013 07:45 AM

But I did see a Ford Shop-Tips somewhere that said Q20,000 was the start of 1973 for the econolines (page 10 Vol 11 #2) but on Page #9 the BRONCO 1973 started with Q00000.

NumberDummy 07-09-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 72rustwarrior (Post 13324301)
But I did see a Ford Shop-Tips somewhere that said Q20,000 was the start of 1973 for the econolines (page 10 Vol 11 #2) but on Page #9 the BRONCO 1973 started with Q00000.

"I never saw a purple cow, I never hope to see one. But I can tell you, anyhow, I'd rather see than be one." -Gelett Burgess, famous San Francisco raconteur. Burgess was born...in Beantown.

Left/Right upper: 1972 / Left/Right lower: 1973.

72rustwarrior 07-09-2013 09:14 AM

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ctureid=133844
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ctureid=133845
Did the DSO affect the date? (like make production run later because of the special order?)

72rustwarrior 07-09-2013 09:15 AM

Also Mine was made (as I understand all Econolines were) made in Lorain, did the date code change per location of plant?


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