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daveplot 06-25-2011 07:37 AM

2003 Rear Differential Fluid Type?
 
I need to top off the fluid in my rear differential, what's the recommeneded type for a 2003?

daveplot 06-25-2011 07:45 AM

Found in the Ford Service DVD 75w-140... that still the recomendation?

alloro 06-25-2011 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by daveplot (Post 10501167)
Found in the Ford Service DVD 75w-140... that still the recommendation?

According to your owner's manual, it's 75W-140 synthetic if you have a limited slip rear axle. For the non-limited slip rear axle you would use 75W-90 synthetic.

broncoholic 06-26-2011 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by daveplot (Post 10501152)
I need to top off the fluid in my rear differential, what's the recommeneded type for a 2003?

Don't top it off just because it's "low". The fluid level is supposed to be a certain measurement below the fill hole. I don't remember the measurement, but it should be in that dvd service manual you have.

pdqford 06-26-2011 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by daveplot (Post 10501167)
Found in the Ford Service DVD 75w-140... that still the recomendation?

Right. The 9.75" rear diff calls for SYNTHETIC SAE 75W-140 (with or without Traction-Lok).

The 8.8" diff calls for Synthetic SAE 75W-140 with Traction-Lok or non-synthetic SAE 75W-90 without Traction-Lok.

If you have a front diff Ford specs a non-synthetic SAE 75W-90 for the front diff.

alwaysfords41 06-26-2011 09:52 AM

And if you have the LSD you need modifier, if you do a change.

daveplot 06-26-2011 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by broncoholic (Post 10504063)
Don't top it off just because it's "low". The fluid level is supposed to be a certain measurement below the fill hole.

Thanks, I looked it up, it's 0.9" below the fill hole.

As to the Friction Modifier, one place in the DVD it says XL-7 (as of 4/30/2003) but elsewhere it says XL-3 (as of 1/28/2002). What's the correct Friction Modifier, i'm assuming XL-7 since it has a newer revision date.

pdqford 06-26-2011 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by daveplot (Post 10504904)
Thanks, I looked it up, it's 0.9" below the fill hole.

I can't find my manual at the moment, but 0.9" sounds excessive, but it may be correct. Make sure that when you looked it up it wasn't 9mm, which would be between 0.3" and 0.4" below the fill hole.


Originally Posted by daveplot (Post 10504904)
As to the Friction Modifier, one place in the DVD it says XL-7 (as of 4/30/2003) but elsewhere it says XL-3 (as of 1/28/2002). What's the correct Friction Modifier, i'm assuming XL-7 since it has a newer revision date.

I'm not aware of the difference between the XL-3 and XL-7, but as 1/28/2002 I don't believe Ford had used the IRS in the Expy, so I'd agree with your assumption that XL-7 is correct for the IRS diff. :-X22

cdherman 06-26-2011 02:52 PM

.9" is right for 2004 at least.

My local ford counter man -- pretty large and sucesful place -- says that the 75w140 synth is now standard and superceeds the older heavy diff fluids, regardless what your old manual or shop manual says. He has a ford counter manual that shows that.

So you can run the 75w140 up front too...

Ditto all the comments about needing LSD additive. I have a leaky rear. I've decided to mix up a quart of lube with additive so I can top it off (.9" below) whenever I need to.

And BTW, I too find it just plain stupid for Ford to design a diff case, where you have to use a wire bent like an "L" to find the fluid level. Like -- whatever happend to the good ole days where you filled to level of the filler hole and then you knew you had the right ammount in there......

pdqford 06-26-2011 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by cdherman (Post 10505214)
.9" is right for 2004 at least.

Thanks for the confirmation. :-wink


Originally Posted by cdherman (Post 10505214)
And BTW, I too find it just plain stupid for Ford to design a diff case, where you have to use a wire bent like an "L" to find the fluid level.

Exactly! And how about the way Ford threatens your warranty if you use the wrong spec fluid, and then all of a sudden its okay (like the Mercon/Mercon V confusion)? Makes one wonder how important their 'spec" is. :-huh

ScottyDsntKnow 06-26-2011 11:48 PM

I just do it like I've always done, use a pump to fill through the fill hole until fluid starts to spill out, put the plug back in, done. I've never and have never heard of anyone having a problem doing it this way.

I also run full syn in front and back, 75w-90 front, 75w-140 rear with a tube of friction modifier mixed up in the first quart to go in each of them.

I drained/filled each diff when I first got the vehicle, part of routine maintenance for any used rwd/4wd vehicle I buy. That and the TC/trans fluid and transfer case as well...

edit: and you don't want to "top off" diff fluid. If its low and was filled properly its leaking and needs a new gasket or cover or both. If it isn't leaking it wasn't filled properly. Either way its best to just drain all the old funky fluid out and give your vehicle new fresh stuff that'll last you a while.

alloro 06-27-2011 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by cdherman (Post 10505214)
whatever happened to the good ole days where you filled to level of the filler hole and then you knew you had the right amount in there......

The reason for the change was cosmetic. When the fluid levels were up at the filler hole, fluid always seemed to ooze out and look unsightly. By lowering the fluid level it kept the fluid away from the filler threads.


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