Couple of tire questions
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10-01-2010, 09:35 AM
Couple of tire questions
Guys forgive me because I know this has been hashed out many times before. I'm making some more progress on my truck and I found the final rim I needed to get my truck back on the road with the original 16 inch rims. It's a 49 F1 that had the standard 6.00 x 16 tires. I'm getting a lot of opinions and different answers regarding which basic size radial tire that matches it. In the meantime, I just got off the phone with a guy at Coker tire. Out of the blue, he told me that I HAD to put a tube on those 16 inch rims even with radials. Is that true? My truck has a set of Ford car rims from the same time period on it right now, and I have 4 relatively cheap radial tubeless tires on them right now. (I'm gonna change because I can't put hubcaps, etc. on those rims for the truck). So any suggestions regarding which modern size works best and do I really need inner tubes would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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10-01-2010, 10:02 AM
I'd take the rims to your local tire shop and ask about the need for tubes. They can see the rims and will know if they'll hold air.
As far as size, again the local shop is probably your best friend. I run LT215/85/16 radials on my 48 F1 and IMHO they are pretty close to the original profile. Using LT tire gives a stiffer sidewall so they stand up taller than a car tire.
As far as size, again the local shop is probably your best friend. I run LT215/85/16 radials on my 48 F1 and IMHO they are pretty close to the original profile. Using LT tire gives a stiffer sidewall so they stand up taller than a car tire.
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10-01-2010, 01:39 PM
Yeah they are cheaper. I'm adding this post for future reference for others. According to diamondback tires, the corresponding modern size for the 600-16 bias tires is 195/80/16 (if I recall, Coker tire said 195/85/16, essentially the same). I may just order those or beef it up a little with a slightly larger size reccommended above. Thanks guys.
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10-01-2010, 02:04 PM
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Before changing out to 16" wheel (w/existing biasply tires), I had the original/stock 15" wheels. I replaced the old biasply tires with radials and had no problems whatsoever. I took my wheels to an old-timer tire shop around here and they told me that the radials would be fine on the wheels without any tubes.
You should be fine with radials on your 16" wheels.
You should be fine with radials on your 16" wheels.
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10-01-2010, 02:18 PM
You asked about what they said about tubes. That's an interesting point. The Coker bunch said that we HAD to run tubes on those original rims. The Diamondback bunch (which apparently specializes in radials primarily) says no. So I didn't actually ask the diamondback staff about tubes because I had read their response to inner tubes on their FAQ's page before I called. Here's their response on that page. So don't anybody yell at me. I'm just the messenger. This came straight off their page:
" THE USE OF TUBES
" THE USE OF TUBES
Never run tubes. That’s like stepping back 40 years in technology. If you still insist on bias ply tires, just make sure they’re tubeless. The chance of a tube failing is much greater than a tubeless tire failure. Why? Tubes create heat and friction, and don’t dissipate heat well...and a tire’s worst enemy is heat. Also, over time, tubes “grow” and become too large, and they actually develop creases — and then they split. If a tube is punctured or fails, air loss is immediate, giving you little or no time at all to react. Often, a tubeless tire can be driven for a while with a puncture."
Like I said in my original post, my truck has a set of 15 inch ford rims from the same period right now. Not sure where the previous owner got them because they look just like a car rim from the same period but have the truck bolt pattern (5 x 5 1/2). They are braded rims and I'm running tubeless tires on them. It's been several months now and so far so good. I will say this--I broke down my 3 original rims the other night with very OLD bias plys on them and inner tubes inside (50+ year old dry rotted bias plys don't cooperate very well when you're using tire irons and one of those cheap manual tire changers at home). The inner tubes were very deformed and obviously had some serious heat issues in the past.
Like I said in my original post, my truck has a set of 15 inch ford rims from the same period right now. Not sure where the previous owner got them because they look just like a car rim from the same period but have the truck bolt pattern (5 x 5 1/2). They are braded rims and I'm running tubeless tires on them. It's been several months now and so far so good. I will say this--I broke down my 3 original rims the other night with very OLD bias plys on them and inner tubes inside (50+ year old dry rotted bias plys don't cooperate very well when you're using tire irons and one of those cheap manual tire changers at home). The inner tubes were very deformed and obviously had some serious heat issues in the past.
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