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Old 09-28-2010, 11:51 PM
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AOD/Flexplate for 76 351

Im not sure what section this should be in, but I figured since the engine is a 76, this section should work.
I have a 76 351w, and a AOD trans that I will be bolting to it. From my research, I believe the transmission is from a 83 Thunderbird.
My question is about the flexplate. I have the original 164T 28oz plate, but I was wondering if this will work with the tranny. I'm fairly new to working on engine, so I'm not sure how these all match up. I do know that if the thunderbird had a 302, it will of had a 50 oz plate. Does this make any difference?

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Yes I believe the original 351w flexplate will work
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:30 AM
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Yes I believe the original 351w flexplate will work
If not, would try the flexplate off the 83 or later Bird. Anything with an AOD and a Windsor SHOULD work.
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Actually an 83 T-bird would have a balance of 50oz on the flexplate and the 1976 351w would have 28oz so that will not work.
A C4 and an AOD require the same flexplate so if your 351w originally had a C4 behind it then you can keep that flexplate with your AOD.
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You also need to consider external versus internal balancing of the motor. Hense the differences in 28oz vs 50oz. the motors harmonic balancer is also different. I did this conversion with a 302 in a 73 Mustang and AOD years ago. I did end up getting 30mpg when I was done, had the 2brl, AOD and 3.00 gears and kept my foot out of it. The darn thing was just about 1100 rpm's at 60 mph. On a drive from Sacramento to Burbank I used 1/2 tank of gas.
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You also need to consider external versus internal balancing of the motor. Hense the differences in 28oz vs 50oz. the motors harmonic balancer is also different. I did this conversion with a 302 in a 73 Mustang and AOD years ago. I did end up getting 30mpg when I was done, had the 2brl, AOD and 3.00 gears and kept my foot out of it. The darn thing was just about 1100 rpm's at 60 mph. On a drive from Sacramento to Burbank I used 1/2 tank of gas.
If its a 76 motor he can use the original balancer and flexplate for the motor and the AOD trans should work fine.
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i second that it will work...only thing you need to do is see if the torque converter will bolt up to the flywheel...if the converter will bolt..slap that bad boy on.
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I went outside and it bolts up to the torque converter so looks like it should all be good. The guy gave me a starter from a 460, he said this should work. Opinions on that?
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idk...first and worst thing you need to do is give us some more info....how many teeth are on the flywheel? it's a pita...but make marks about every ten teeth and you'll know...then you can narrow it down to what starter you need.
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I think I said in my original post that it has 164 teeth and its 28oz. It came bolted to the 351.
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sorry man i somehow skipped that....my bad...i'm pretty sure whatever starter for the engine and the automatic it came with will be right for it...what i suggest doing is what i did with my last project...find the numbers on the starter you have...if it's a replacement you can look it up and see what trans it's for....the only reason i could think of it not fitting would be either the bolts for the trans or if the starter is for a manual trans....


my apologies again for not seeing that you had given all the info.
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No worries. ill get the numbers and look it up. I'm not sure what trans it came from. He gave it to me because he sold the originl before I got the engine and tranny
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that's the best bet for ya....lots and lots of research...then some more research... idk what it'd cost to ship a starter to ya but i got one on the shelf that you could have...i'd just have to see what exactly it's for.
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Actually an 83 T-bird would have a balance of 50oz on the flexplate and the 1976 351w would have 28oz so that will not work.
A C4 and an AOD require the same flexplate so if your 351w originally had a C4 behind it then you can keep that flexplate with your AOD.
Thanks, i misread the date on the 351W...OOPS! Sorry!
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Thanks, i misread the date on the 351W...OOPS! Sorry!
No prob but just so you know the date would not matter. All 351w have 28oz, they did not change to 50oz like the 302 did.
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