1999 to 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

6.2l F150 Lariat rated @ 411HP?? Superduty rated at 385HP??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-20-2010, 12:11 PM
todrobcon's Avatar
todrobcon
todrobcon is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
6.2l F150 Lariat rated @ 411HP?? Superduty rated at 385HP??

I am planning on ordering a 6.2l Lariat F250, but i have been reading the 2011 F150 will be coming out with the "Raptor" 6.2l rated at 411hp vs the F250-F350 rating of 385hp, seems to me the Superduties could make more use of this extra power, What's Ford thinking?? When will the Raptor engine be available in the Superduty, anyone know?
 
  #2  
Old 09-20-2010, 12:15 PM
PERFORMANCE RED's Avatar
PERFORMANCE RED
PERFORMANCE RED is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 758
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What is the tourqe ratings and what what RPM's? one engine is ment for towing one is ment to go fast.
 
  #3  
Old 09-20-2010, 12:54 PM
Monsta's Avatar
Monsta
Monsta is offline
Sit. Stay.

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Washington State
Posts: 18,308
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
6.2L V8 In F-150
Max HP - 411 @ 5500 rpm
Max Torque - 434 @ 4500 rpm


6.2L V8 in Super Duty
Max HP - 385 @ 5500 rpm
Max Torque - 405 @ 4500 rpm

The Raptor and the upper trim lines of the F-150 are halo vehicles for Ford. They have to rated to the extreme. Verify the fuel requirements of the higher hp versions. They may be advertised based on using premium or E85, I dunno.

Looks like Ford left room for more gas engine HP wars.
 
  #4  
Old 09-21-2010, 09:28 AM
PERFORMANCE RED's Avatar
PERFORMANCE RED
PERFORMANCE RED is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 758
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What a bunch of BS.

Wouldn't it be smarter and cheaper on fords part just to make them the same dang engine?
 
  #5  
Old 09-21-2010, 10:33 AM
dchamberlain's Avatar
dchamberlain
dchamberlain is online now
Lead Driver

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scio, OR
Posts: 8,174
Received 664 Likes on 424 Posts
They are the same dang engine. They are tuned differently.

Put the higher horsepower tuning in the much heavier F-250 and it'll tear itself apart.
 
  #6  
Old 09-21-2010, 10:47 AM
ChargersFanInCO's Avatar
ChargersFanInCO
ChargersFanInCO is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sunny, Snowy, CO
Posts: 2,313
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's Ford's way of saying you should buy a diesel...
 
  #7  
Old 09-21-2010, 10:57 AM
asok's Avatar
asok
asok is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In towing vehicles ford has played up their torque curves. I can't say that I know, but it is likely that the 250 will generate more power at lower RPM, possibly at the cost of a lower HP rating.
 
  #8  
Old 09-21-2010, 11:09 AM
patrickke's Avatar
patrickke
patrickke is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lexington,Ky / Owensboro
Posts: 1,637
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My thought is that ford is attempting to get a little better mpg out of the superduties
 
  #9  
Old 09-21-2010, 11:42 AM
scububbs's Avatar
scububbs
scububbs is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tucson
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dchamberlain
They are the same dang engine. They are tuned differently.

Put the higher horsepower tuning in the much heavier F-250 and it'll tear itself apart.
I'm inclined to agree with you. The next question though, is what is being risked by using a tuner that primarily adds HP and Torque.
 
  #10  
Old 09-21-2010, 11:53 AM
todrobcon's Avatar
todrobcon
todrobcon is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The way I see it, it is not a matter of if but when this "Raptor" motor will be in the Superduty, is Ford waiting for Chev/Dodge to start a Hp race similar to what happened with the diesel? There will be a lot of disapointed people if the power numbers are increased to 411hp/435trq on the 6.2l after just having bought the 385hp/405trq version, after all it's not like they can be reflashed like the diesels were, changing a cam etc is a little more involved/expensive. Just give us the "Raptor" engine already!!
 
  #11  
Old 09-21-2010, 12:03 PM
Mike F250 SD's Avatar
Mike F250 SD
Mike F250 SD is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 240
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
IMO its a truck not a race car that little of a power diff prob isn't noticeable. Ford did this for a reason who knows why. As long as it does what its ment for who cares
 
  #12  
Old 09-21-2010, 12:16 PM
dstuf34's Avatar
dstuf34
dstuf34 is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lino Lakes, MN
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mike F250 SD is right. If you had 411hp in the Super Duty and you mashed it I would bet that you wouldn't notice the difference unless you were at the track -- it's only 7% more hp.
 

Last edited by dstuf34; 09-21-2010 at 12:24 PM. Reason: update comment
  #13  
Old 09-21-2010, 03:23 PM
redford's Avatar
redford
redford is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Stephensville WI
Posts: 23,076
Received 1,561 Likes on 909 Posts
The Raptor is a high end pseudo racing vehicle.

That's like asking why the F-150 Lightning had more horsepower than a regular F-150, or an SVT Mustang has more power than a regular Mustang.
 
  #14  
Old 09-21-2010, 05:42 PM
i eat hybrids's Avatar
i eat hybrids
i eat hybrids is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 5,955
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
What if they detuned it from a longevity standpoint? They did the same thing with the E series engine. Granit that was for a heat/cooling issue since it had a small engine bay. They also did it for the new chassis cab trucks. The 6.7 is only rated at 300 hp and 660 tq. As where in the F250, 350, 450 its rated at 400 hp and 800 tq
 
  #15  
Old 09-21-2010, 05:46 PM
ChargersFanInCO's Avatar
ChargersFanInCO
ChargersFanInCO is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sunny, Snowy, CO
Posts: 2,313
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by i eat hybrids
What if they detuned it from a longevity standpoint? They did the same thing with the E series engine. Granit that was for a heat/cooling issue since it had a small engine bay. They also did it for the new chassis cab trucks. The 6.7 is only rated at 300 hp and 660 tq. As where in the F250, 350, 450 its rated at 400 hp and 800 tq
True...the chassis cabs have lower gearing, but because of the weight it's harder to get moving. 400/800 might do a number on u-joints or driveshafts over time on one of them.
 


Quick Reply: 6.2l F150 Lariat rated @ 411HP?? Superduty rated at 385HP??



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:58 PM.