Ceramic or Semi matallic brake pads?
#16
10-18-2014, 08:58 AM
I have run rotors on an old 96 F350 7.3l for well over 200,000 miles. These were the original Ford rotors. I changed pads 3 times and never turned the rotors. Miles on rotors doesn't meant they require replacement. It is the wear and deterioration of the rotors as shown in photo above. If rotors are smooth, no warped areas, no fractures and within thickness specs, they do not need changed.
JMHO
JMHO
Dura last HD pads, Wagner, or Raybestos all make a good pad for my SD. I would never buy an opening price point for any vehicle, however, some will say they have to use EBC or Carbon Metallic but I've never felt the need.
As easy as it is to replace the pads, I'd rather have them wear quicker, brake better, and replace more often.
No free lunch here. If you want loner lasting pads and fewer changes, something has to give. Rotors are the point of wear here.
#17
10-18-2014, 09:03 AM
The rotors will most likely come from Rock Auto Parts and the Hawk pads - wherever I can find them for the least amount of money as they are about $85-$95/axle. Last ones were from AMAZON (or possibly Tire Rack) if I recall that far back as terminal CRS has set in. I've used mid-line Centric rotors with good results but on the Escape I went with Brembo. Others may dispute me, but I have found the Ford rotors in the rust belt turn to corroded junk pretty quick plus are IMO pretty soft for that 'feel'.
This is at ~37,000 miles. Some of the wear was from a rusty guide pin, but for sure, the rust wasn't:
This is at ~37,000 miles. Some of the wear was from a rusty guide pin, but for sure, the rust wasn't:
The odd thing was that the rears were JUNK at the 37-38k mile mark while the fronts were maybe 20% worn!
You gotta wonder if they have the rotors made by the same subcontractor?
#18
10-18-2014, 09:28 AM
Fleet Mechanic
When all is said, any name brand premium pad will probably work very well. I've found the Hawk LTS to be reasonably easy on rotors so have continued to use them. The OEM Ford pads are pretty good - but do lay a nasty layer of crud on your wheels. The rotors, IMO, leave a lot to be desired. That's not an opinion from the rotor photo shown above, but from several late model F150/250 and 350's as well as cars. The ancient '60s-'90s that I've owned - probably a total of 1-2 rotors ever replaced over many, many thousands of miles.
#19
10-18-2014, 09:44 AM
#20
10-18-2014, 09:50 AM
Fleet Mechanic
True - I purchased a well used Granada that had the @#$% beat out of it and used it as a work car. I had to replace rotors before it could be inspected. Those dang chunks of iron were about $75 each in 1988 (or thereabouts) and about what an OEM level SD rotor costs now. As far as brake drums - never on one of my cars but many on customers.
#21
10-18-2014, 10:03 AM
True - I purchased a well used Granada that had the @#$% beat out of it and used it as a work car. I had to replace rotors before it could be inspected. Those dang chunks of iron were about $75 each in 1988 (or thereabouts) and about what an OEM level SD rotor costs now. As far as brake drums - never on one of my cars but many on customers.
I recently heard of a guy that lost his brakes when a well worn out drum with too many drum turnings, exploded during hard braking.
As an older vehicle, it didn't have a dual master cylinder system and lost all braking. Not good.
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