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Old 09-17-2010, 08:06 PM
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In my experience if one goes, the rest are just around the corner. Never plan on replacing just one. Youll get it in, go to bleed the brakes, and another one will blow. If I were you I would bite the bullet and replace all the hard lines now, since the trucks down anyways.
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In my experience if one goes, the rest are just around the corner. Never plan on replacing just one. Youll get it in, go to bleed the brakes, and another one will blow. If I were you I would bite the bullet and replace all the hard lines now, since the trucks down anyways.

That is what I was thinking. Is there a kit with all the lines, fittings, and other things I would need that you know of? I ordered a few parts catalogs but they are not here yet. Should be fun trying to get the existing lines off as they look pretty rusty!

Thanks for all your comments and suggestions!
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When I did mine I just picked up the correct size straight lines and bent them myself. Id imagine a kit would be very expensive
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When I did mine I just picked up the correct size straight lines and bent them myself. Id imagine a kit would be very expensive
Thanks for the heads up. Never have had to do hard lines before so I need a line bender as well. Can you give me a rough estimate of what all the lines costs you total? Also, did you do the fittings yourself or did you get the lines with the fittings preinstalled? I believe the lines are 3/16th. What are the fittings? Did you do all the lines (MC to propotioning valve, PV to both fronts, pf to RABS, RABS to rears)?

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i never used a bender, as long as you dont try and make too tight of bends it works fine. yeah i wanna say they were 3/16 line, standard fittings. its been so long since i did mine i dont remember what prices were any more, but i dont think i paid more than $5 a line.
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Thanks again for the help with the brake line issue. Just in case I did not mention it enough, THIS SITE IS A GREAT RESOURCE!!! Looked through some old threads about hard lines and got all the information I needed to do the job. Brake line was replaced and brakes bled. Work great!

Also wanted to say again how nice these trucks are to work on compared to similar age and older small cars - especially euro imports. There is SO MUCH ROOM on the trucks that parts are generally easily accesable (so far). Doing some jobs on other cars means taking off various componets jut to be able to see the nuts/bolts that you then have to reach in by feel and turn 1/8 rotation at a time! that is one reason getting any work done on euro cars at a shop is so expensive.

So enough of me singing the praises of these truck as I am preaching to the converted. After getting the brake line fixed, I wanted to test them out a bit. As the sun was going down, I went to turn on the headlights and only the highbeams work. Looked through some olf threads and I think the problem is the high/low dimmer floor switch. Will get that swaped out tomorrow. At least I will be able to drive the truck to the parts store!

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Just an update and some pictures .... and, of course, a new issue.

Got the low beams to work. It was not the switch exactly - it was the connecetor to the dimmer switch. When I started to take it apart the low beams flashed for a second. I cleaned up the contacts and it works again good as new.

The truck started to earn back some of its purchase price today. Got a small load of dried wood for the winter from my FILs property. I did not load it up as this was the first time hauling anything and I wanted to make sure everything was working well. The truck didn't seem to even notice this small of a load except for starting out in 2nd gear. It was a little slower to launch and if you were not rolling it was really slow. Granny worked fine though!

As for the new problem - when the truck is warm and it idles the oil pressure gauge goes to zero ans the red engine light comes on. give it a little gas and the needle gomes back up into the normal range and the light goes out. The gauge never reads high - about to the N in normal is the top I have seen it. I have read that if the rpms go under about 550 then the oil pump won't get the pressure to safe levels. My idle is a little low - right about 600 or so. Any suggestions? I also think the gauge is a real guage as I have also read that the 88s and above have the "idiot" on off gauge. Am I correct?

Some pictures. The brake line I replaced, and 2 of the truck with wood in the back. Work truck working ..... ahhhhhh, all is right in the world! (sorry about the crappy pictures - not to much room down by the wood shed)
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Id be worried about the oil problem. the little light is meant to come on when you are below 5 psi oil pressure i believe. I would get an aftermarket gauge hooked up asap so you can see whats really going on. Idiot light gauge or not, you still need to get some real numbers. And a rule of thumb is 10psi oil pressure for every 1000 rpms min to not damage anything
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Oh I am plenty worried about the oil pressure. I just put in the information about what I have read about the guage as a FYI and to record my thoughts on this project. Although the fact that the pressure goes back up on the guage and engine light going off when reving the engine above about 700 rpms makes me feel a bit better in that there seems to be SOME pressure - how much is yet to be seen but I will do so ASAP.

Thanks for the warning though. If others are like me they read lots of old posts and this information will come in handy.
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Update

Been a while and so far so good with the brakes and the oil pressure problem has not came back. I am driving the truck and it seems to be running better geting regular use. Got 3 more loads of wood so far and no problems with that as well.

A couple of cosmetic changes

1) got the tailgate latch swapped out for a new one. That also allowed me to reinstall the tailgate bed protector piece as shown.

2) painted the rear bumper. Used silver/gray paint. Nothing fancy but looks a ton better than 3 tone rusty!

3) Ratttle car touch up of the white paint. Used a whole can for all the flaking paint! Looks OK from 20 feet. At some point I want to do a real paint job (and by real I mean some sanding/prep and then a roll on rustolium job )

So far I am very happy with the truck and I still have less than $1000 into it including purchase, tune up, brake line redo, title, registration (2 years $51.50 for MD historic tags FTW!), and 6 months insurance ($38.42!).

Next up is getting some replacement pannels for the rust in the cab. Also, just got the LMC catalogue in the mail so I may find some more goodies in there. Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement!

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these are great trucks

Day of my accident
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you have to really beat these trucks up for them to give up! lol.....
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my third brake light install case anyone wants to know lol...

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